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Posted by CWilken21
Gnawlins
Member since Mar 2005
4035 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 4:52 pm to
Entergy saying 11,000 in Jeff, 10,000 in Orleans are back on.

You guys have to remember that they have to work to put critical infrastructure in place first. Children's hospital, LSU hospital, police and fire stations are getting back on the grid.
The airport got 2 feeders in so they will be back tomorrow.

He said they need time to fix substations and transmission lines which will allow them to turn on large amounts of people at one time.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23350 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 4:52 pm to
If they have actual substation damage, that could be major. That equipment in that station isn't easy to come by. They should have spares, depending on what it is, but it takes time. Same with transmission lines. Bigger poles, bigger wire, bigger equipment. Not even close to the same as repairing distribution.

You are asking alot of a company that has been hit pretty hard.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30687 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 4:52 pm to
Smaller companies? Seriously? You obviously have no idea of the amount of resources required to maintain a power grid.

And Entergy does not have a monopoly. The power industry is government regulated. Entergy can't even decide how much they want to charge you without permission from the regulatory commission. Ever notice those credits you get every once in a while? If the RC says Entergy didn't invest enough in improvement of its infrastructure, they have to give it back. Some co ops don't even own the lines they transmit power across
Go read up on California's power crisis if you think deregulation will help competition.
I can't stand ignorant people like yourself that bitch about their power in a storm. I have a bunch of family and friends who I won't see for the next week or two because they will be working 16hrs or more every day nonstop trying to get power back on while having to politely take shite from assholes like yourself who are mildly inconvenienced.
Posted by Siderophore
Member since Nov 2010
3338 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 4:52 pm to
Didn't you say earlier that you knew people who worked in the field?

Don't you know that the publically given estimates are filled with fricktons of cushion?

Often power is restored in half the time given for the estimate.
Posted by BoobieWatcher
Member since Jun 2010
4587 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 4:54 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/5/13 at 4:50 pm
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
31284 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 4:55 pm to
Can we all just agree that an annoying problem such as this is only compounded by having hours upon hours to think about it while sitting in a hot dark house?

It can always be worse, but I think what he's getting at is that there just doesn't seem like there is an effort to let us know what's going on with any detail.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23350 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

I have a bunch of family and friends who I won't see for the next week or two because they will be working 16hrs or more every day nonstop trying to get power back on while having to politely take shite from assholes like yourself who are mildly inconvenienced.


This. The amount of shite they put up with from people who have no clue or patience is astounding.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

Apparently the bad news was that it was going to take 2 days to assess the damage. Just saying buddy.



800,000 customers. Each street must be assessed before they turn the power back on to avoid fire/further damage.

And as I said earlier; they are working. Mine has been on since 1:15 today.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23350 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 4:57 pm to
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There wasn't much damage to the substations or transmission lines in Baton Rouge.


This is ignorance. What is much damage? If they lose a breaker, a circuit switcher, or damage to a bushing on a transformer, tough shite. These aren't things they keep spares of. You have beg, borrow and steal for this stuff in an emergency. Any one of these items goes out, then the entire station is down and every feeder, tap and customer on that. If Entergy has 50 subs in Baton Rouge and 1 is damaged, then of course they say "not much" damage. Its all relative.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30687 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

There wasn't much damage to the substations or transmission lines in Baton Rouge

Do you know this for a fact? Are you an electrical engineer? Have you been in the briefing room with the head of restoration?

Or are you just another self proclaimed expert like all the ones on the OT a few days ago claiming this storm would be no big deal?
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
31284 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

Mine has been on since 1:15 today.


lol, not saying you wouldn't be arguing this without power, but it does make it easier to tell people to be patient while you're sitting in a powered house


That aside, does anyone know how often Entergy updates their outtage map?
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23350 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 4:59 pm to
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elprez00


Are you in a family of line workers?
Posted by Siderophore
Member since Nov 2010
3338 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:00 pm to
quote:

lol, not saying you wouldn't be arguing this without power, but it does make it easier to tell people to be patient while you're sitting in a powered house


The problem is that he is trying to argue that he knows Entergy's job better than they do.

And he actually wants to slow restoration efforts to keep him up to date on the situation.
This post was edited on 8/30/12 at 5:01 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

lol, not saying you wouldn't be arguing this without power, but it does make it easier to tell people to be patient while you're sitting in a powered house


I was out during Gustav for over a week while the houses across the street had power restored within 2 days.


quote:

That aside, does anyone know how often Entergy updates their outtage map?


I looked this morning, and my outage was correctly reported. Checked about 45 minutes after power was restored and it correctly stated that I had power.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30687 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

not saying you wouldn't be arguing this without power, but it does make it easier to tell people to be patient while you're sitting in a powered house

FWIW, I'm sitting in an unpowered house arguing against the OP. But, unlike some people, I was prepared for the storm and have my generator running while watching tv and enjoying the ac provided by my window unit for this exact scenario. You only are inconvenienced if you allow yourself to be.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23350 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

And he actually wants to slow restoration efforts to keep him up to date on the situation.


In fact, the PR people actually wait for the field people to tell them how many were restored. They can't call trying to find out. Just leave the field guys alone and let them do their job.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
13945 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

There wasn't much damage to the substations or transmission lines in Baton Rouge.


They have to drive down all streets to ensure there are not unknown downed lines.. If they throw the juice premature, there could be major problems. Many areas had breakers that needed switching.. All this takes time. I was lucky to be in area that had no line problems and once the breakers were flipped we got juice.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
30687 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:07 pm to
Not line workers, management that directs restoration, and I have several friends that are engineers in distribution and at the power plants.

I've met a bunch of linemen, and those guys work their asses off during these storms. Good people, and they shouldn't have to put up with crap like the OP.
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
23350 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:09 pm to
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they shouldn't have to put up with crap like the OP.


The last thing they want is to have to answer "how long" questions. For Gustav, we assigned law enforcement with each crew. They keep the public away. It worked great.
Posted by Butch Baum
Member since Oct 2007
3227 posts
Posted on 8/30/12 at 5:13 pm to
Out at 6 last night, no generator, on at 12:30 this afternoon. You know where you live how long it will take. Longer than a thunderstorm, less than gustav or katrina. Hope you are all dehumidified by tonight!
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