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updating home from vinyl to hardy board..anyone done this?

Posted on 11/11/19 at 3:45 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 3:45 pm
i've got a guy working up a quote for me as we speak but i have no idea what to expect. he could come with a quote of $10k or $100k and i wouldn't bat an eye either way.

he did seem like it was no big deal when he came out & looked at the house but my gut tells me this is going to be several tens of thousands of dollars.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 3:50 pm to
It really depends on how geometrically complex the exterior of your house is....do you live in a basic box, with no dormers, bay windows, or complex angles and lots of corners? Go by the old "count the corners" rule of thumb: count the number of exterior corners on your house....the more corners, the higher the labor costs to fit all of that Hardie board.

I'd be less concerned about the replacement costs than the unexpected discoveries that will happen when you start pulling the vinyl. At least in my ridiculously wet climate, it's perfectly normal to find a few rotten windowsills, etc once you peel back the skin of an older house.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78102 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 4:16 pm to
so far all he did was peel up one piece of siding and knock on the house & said 'hey you have plywood under here so that's good.

yes its a fairly large house (3800sf on one level) and mostly a rectangle but there are 8 dormers.

4 facing the front
2 facing left side
1 facing right side
1 facing the back

lots and lots of corners

here you go..you can see 7 of the 8 dormers and some idea of all the corners involved. most are in the front; only 4 corners in the back i believe.

Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 4:17 pm to
Thinking of redoing my carport/garage. Keep me updated.

Just wonder if having it stucco would be cheaper.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 4:20 pm
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78102 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

Thinking of redoing my carport/garage. Keep me updated


yeah i'm also wondering if he can do it in stages if its too cost prohibitive to do it all at once. is that even a thing? i would want to do the front first, for sure since thats the main curb appeal.

its all on one level; house is built into the side of a hill so even though its technically 2 stories, the first floor is just the garage & basement bedroom and 75% of that is underground.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15160 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 4:21 pm to
I don't know how much it's going to cost, but I know it's not going to be cheap with all that square footage, dormers, corners and height.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78102 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

don't know how much it's going to cost, but I know it's not going to be cheap with all that square footage, dormers, corners and height.


thats what i told my wife but she wouldn't stop bugging me until i had someone out to give us a quote.

i'm hoping its high enough that she gives up on the idea. the vinyl looks dated but it seems to work fine.
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 4:25 pm to
A 1100 sf house cost me about 1K. Was able to buy more then enough siding for $800 of craigslist. The other money went to trim. I hung it myself which wasn't that hard.

Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/11/19 at 10:02 pm to
I did it 10 years ago. Cost me about 20k on a two story 2400 ft home

Best decision I ever made. I hate vinyl siding. I was having to wash that house twice a year and the vinyl was getting old and brittle.
Posted by sosaysmorvant
River Parishes, LA
Member since Feb 2008
1314 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 6:09 am to
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Best decision I ever made. I hate vinyl siding. I was having to wash that house twice a year and the vinyl was getting old and brittle.


Same here. Night and day difference in look and feel. I spent 50K, but that included replacing all of our windows (a lot).

I would never go back to vinyl. It's not a bad product, but Hardiboard is superior in my opinion.
Posted by fishfighter
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Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:34 am to
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I would never go back to vinyl. It's not a bad product, but Hardiboard is superior in my opinion.


Yep, but on that small guest house, I will use vinyl for the eaves. Just looking for a few warmer days in a row to spray paint the house. Then I will do the eaves.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17960 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:30 am to
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Just wonder if having it stucco would be cheaper.

The savings 10-15 years down the road from removing the stucco to address underlying rot would be blown pretty quickly.

As to OP...the house wrap should already be there, windows wrapped/sealed... so it's just taking off the old vinyl and putting on hardie. If you do it in stages, the corners will be a pain based on how the vinyl corners are done. Other than that, it's pretty straightforward.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78102 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 7:51 pm to
37k.


We may hold off on this project awhile.
Posted by Tiger in Gatorland
Moonshine Holler
Member since Sep 2006
9081 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:17 pm to
Please add a baby pool fence
Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1208 posts
Posted on 11/12/19 at 8:28 pm to
Get another quote. We had multiple quotes in the ATL priced from 15-20k.

Home was three levels with 4500 total square feet. Three sides siding. Two of three sides were three stories.
Posted by poule deau
Member since Jan 2009
1405 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 12:24 pm to
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I was having to wash that house twice a year


Just curious, but why would the Hardie need less washing than the vinyl?
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
15160 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 7:08 pm to
So, that price includes tearing off the vinyl siding, replacing it with hardy board and painting it???


If so, that's really not a bad price considering the sq. footage, number of dormers, height, etc.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/13/19 at 8:25 pm to
I don't know why green algae does so well on vinyl but it never grows on my hardiplank.

I did put a fungicide in the paint and I have never washed it because of mildew and algae.

I have the house washed every April just because. It helps the looks and gets dust and grim off.

I do still get some mildew on the flashing and on some painted wood columns I have.
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 8:30 pm
Posted by fishfighter
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Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 6:42 am to
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I don't know why green algae does so well on vinyl but it never grows on my hardiplank.


I notice that myself. I had very little growth even after two years.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78102 posts
Posted on 11/14/19 at 7:40 am to
Correct on all counts except the hardiboard comes already painted as long as I pick him the one of the 20 or so colors.
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