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Under cabinet lighting
Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:53 am
Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:53 am
I did a search and saw reference in a few other threads, but wasn't able to find something specifically about this. We had a baby a couple of weeks ago and for some reason 2 am bottles has me feeling like under cabinet lighting is a need now. We currently have a couple of little rechargeable lights on magnets and its not cutting it. They have to be charged every day.
What is everyone using? I'm not opposed to hard wiring. I also have outlets inside of cabinets I can use. I just don't want anything that has to be charged. I want actual under cabinet lighting that can stay on through the night or be dimmed. Also not against fixtures or light strips.
What is everyone using? I'm not opposed to hard wiring. I also have outlets inside of cabinets I can use. I just don't want anything that has to be charged. I want actual under cabinet lighting that can stay on through the night or be dimmed. Also not against fixtures or light strips.
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:57 am to lsugrad35
following.
i get the basic premise, but would love to know whats best in 2024 rather than stapling strip LEDs or MySuperBrightLED adhesive strips like teenage girls put in their rooms.
i want this to look professional and be robust.
i get the basic premise, but would love to know whats best in 2024 rather than stapling strip LEDs or MySuperBrightLED adhesive strips like teenage girls put in their rooms.
i want this to look professional and be robust.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:01 am to CAD703X
You can buy an LED strip cover that makes it look a lot more professional.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 11:02 am
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:38 am to lsugrad35
I installed these type ( LINK) in 2018 when I remodeled my kitchen. Have a switch next to my cooktop on the backsplash and use the undercabinet lights all the time.
When the kitchen was down to the studs, I ran the 120V wiring, then connected everything after cabinets were installed. Can't imagine trying to hard wire them after a backsplash, cabinets, etc. are installed, though.
When the kitchen was down to the studs, I ran the 120V wiring, then connected everything after cabinets were installed. Can't imagine trying to hard wire them after a backsplash, cabinets, etc. are installed, though.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:44 am to CAD703X
Even professionally installed under cabinet LED are very similar to what teenage girls put in their rooms. The biggest difference is the color consistency/quality.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:46 am to BilbeauTBaggins
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You can buy an LED strip cover that makes it look a lot more professional.
This. We just did this. Bought Commercial Electric LED tape light from Home Depot. It comes with remote and let's you choose color of white light(bright, soft etc) and brightness level.
We then bought tape light diffusers from Amazon.
Plugged the lights in outlet over stove that's in a cabinet. Drilled through one cabinet to run down to under cabinets. Then installed under cabinets with the diffuser covers and 3m tape. It looks great and was an easy install. It's super easy to splice them too with the Commercial Electric accessory kit that comes with connector s
Posted on 2/27/24 at 12:08 pm to Greenie10
Can you link any of this and share some pics? The biggest thing that has my head spinning is just that I need to cover cabinets with gaps in between. So I'm trying to understand how I can basically have spans between cabinets and inside of cabinets that are just power with no lights and then start another section of lights. I want them all connected to control with a single remote or switch and not have "segments".
Posted on 2/27/24 at 12:38 pm to lsugrad35
post a pic of your kitchen and draw an x where the outlets in the cabinets are so we can figure out how to wire them up.
if you have an outlet in every cabinet, you can buy either plug in under cabinet lights or hard wired lights.
I have these which are hard wired. They are controled by a switch but also have a switch on the light as wlll you're unable to unstall with a switch.
note: i was skeptical about under cabinet lights, thought they would be a waste. But you are absolutely right, they're great for late night baby stuff and honestly, in general. We use them way more than the ceiling lights.
Enbrighten 18 Inch Premium Front Phase LED Under Cabinet Light Fixture, Direct Wire, In-Wall Dimmer Compatible, 3000K Bright White, Steel Housing, 769 Lumens, 26764
These come in different lenghts so you can choose what will fit under your cabinet.
Also be sure to pick the correct light "temperature". Typically 3000 is warm white which is what you'd probably want.
if you have an outlet in every cabinet, you can buy either plug in under cabinet lights or hard wired lights.
I have these which are hard wired. They are controled by a switch but also have a switch on the light as wlll you're unable to unstall with a switch.
note: i was skeptical about under cabinet lights, thought they would be a waste. But you are absolutely right, they're great for late night baby stuff and honestly, in general. We use them way more than the ceiling lights.
Enbrighten 18 Inch Premium Front Phase LED Under Cabinet Light Fixture, Direct Wire, In-Wall Dimmer Compatible, 3000K Bright White, Steel Housing, 769 Lumens, 26764
These come in different lenghts so you can choose what will fit under your cabinet.
Also be sure to pick the correct light "temperature". Typically 3000 is warm white which is what you'd probably want.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 12:53 pm to lsugrad35
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I want them all connected to control with a single remote or switch and not have "segments".
You should be able to drill a small hole to feed the connecting cables between each cabinet lighting. There are a lot of YouTube videos you can watch to see what people do, but it's very very small halls. You don't need more than whatever the cable size is to feed the wires.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:00 pm to poochie
Let's see if this works...
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:01 pm to poochie
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We use them way more than the ceiling lights.
We use ours WAYYY more than the big chandelier light in our kitchen. We have these hard-wired pucks from Home Depot and a switch. It was all set up when I moved in so I'm not a huge help here, other than to say they are great.
We leave ours on basically 24/7 and if we're not cooking or entertaining we just use these and a couple lamps to light up the kitchen.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:10 pm to lsugrad35
We can work with this.... So i'd tie in to the outlet in the left countertop cupboard (ORANGE DOT) and go up to the left and put an under cabinet switch (YELLOW S) right of the left of your coffee maker (assuming that's where you walk into the room), then i'd put LIGHT A under that double cabinet (above the coffee maker) then snake through the cupboard where you got power then out to the cabinet to the left of the sink and install LIGHT B, then back into the cupboard, down into the lower cabinets, cut across to the other side, behind the dish washer then up into the countertop cupboard on the right, then connect to a light under the cabinet to the right of the sink LIGHT C, then back in to the cupboard then out to a light to the left of the stove LIGHT D, then jump up through that cabinet, across the cabinet above the micro, then back down in the cabinet to the right of the stove and connect too the last light LIGHT E. Boom, all lights connected to one switch.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:19 pm to poochie
I agree with the design, I’m basically just wondering if I can link that many sections of strip lights and, essentially, what type of wire the red in your diagram is. If I’m doing strip lights I assume that some type of low voltage id have to solder onto each section of lights to make the connection.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:22 pm to lsugrad35
You can because these things draw so little juice.
I don’t think LV requires soldering. There’s snap plugs that you connect them with.
I don’t think LV requires soldering. There’s snap plugs that you connect them with.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 1:34 pm to CatfishJohn
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We use ours WAYYY more than the big chandelier light in our kitchen. We have these hard-wired pucks from Home Depot and a switch. It was all set up when I moved in so I'm not a huge help here, other than to say they are great.
any particular brand/model you picked? any led set going to be about the same level of brightness?
we are putting cans in ceiling but i guarantee my wife will never let me turn them on so the brighter the better and preferably a dimmer.
she hates the bluer whites so 2700k or 3000k will likely be the coloring.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 2/27/24 at 2:03 pm to CAD703X
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any particular brand/model you picked? any led set going to be about the same level of brightness?
we are putting cans in ceiling but i guarantee my wife will never let me turn them on so the brighter the better and preferably a dimmer.
she hates the bluer whites so 2700k or 3000k will likely be the coloring.
No clue on brand, there are tons of puck and bar lighting brands at home depot and I'm not sure any are that much better than the other.
3000k (I think "Bright White" was the name). That matches the bulbs in the chandelier and lamps. We do have a dimmer on the switch although don't necessarily use it much.
I bought these ecosmart bulbs in bulk in Bright White and we matched that. They aren't yellow as the label suggests. They aren't white/cool either. I think it's a solid happy middle ground.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 2/27/24 at 2:10 pm to CAD703X
There are some LEDs that allow for different levels of white (soft, bright, cool)
Posted on 2/27/24 at 2:58 pm to lsugrad35
We went undercabinet LEDs sometime back when we did a kitchen remodel. Legrand adorne under cabinet lighting system is what we used.
https://www.legrand.us/adorne/under-cabinet-lighting-system
I'll never have a kitchen without undercabinet lighting again
https://www.legrand.us/adorne/under-cabinet-lighting-system
I'll never have a kitchen without undercabinet lighting again
Posted on 2/27/24 at 3:05 pm to poochie
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There’s snap plugs that you connect them with.
This is how my electrician ran ours when we did our kitchen reno back in 2017. We were down to studs, he then requested the kitchen design from our cabinet guys and ran the wires before the sheetrock went up. So when cabinets went in, installers just had to drill small holes at the bottom to keep everything flush
As that is not an option, what poochie outlined looks like what I would do if I had a similar set-up.
Posted on 2/27/24 at 3:52 pm to mdomingue
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We went undercabinet LEDs sometime back when we did a kitchen remodel. Legrand adorne under cabinet lighting system is what we used
a little pricey; the GFCI control box & switch+dimmer is $150 alone. you need one for each section you're running lights.
but; its modular and you can plug the LEDs right in along w/ the outlets.
seems like a really professional way to handle both the outlet scenario and the lighting in a single track that is simple to add on.
i'm going to guess the integrated aspect of wiring, track, outlets, lighting and correct GFCI switch makes up for the extra cost.
done and done. i think this is a no-brainer and will look very polished.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 3:55 pm
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