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TWP Stain on cypressPosted by MagnumTA 
on 1/6/21 at 4:08 pm
on 1/6/21 at 4:08 pm
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0Currently in the process of building. Can those of you that have used TWP on cypress columns post a picture? I was originally planning to use the dark oak.
I put some minwax dark walnut on a scrap piece, and it was almost black. We want them to be on the darker side, but not to dark. I'm worried that the TWP dark oak will end up being to dark as well.
So, can anyone that as used it post a pic?
Thanks
I put some minwax dark walnut on a scrap piece, and it was almost black. We want them to be on the darker side, but not to dark. I'm worried that the TWP dark oak will end up being to dark as well.
So, can anyone that as used it post a pic?
Thanks
re: TWP Stain on cypressPosted by LSUtigerME on 1/6/21 at 4:24 pm to MagnumTA
on 1/6/21 at 4:24 pm to MagnumTAI bought two gallons of TWP Pecan to do my posts and didn’t like the way it looked vs the sample.
I ended up going with a Minwax stain and some poly. I’ll have to recoat every few years but I like the way it came out.
I ended up going with a Minwax stain and some poly. I’ll have to recoat every few years but I like the way it came out.
Staining tip:
If you want the stain to come out more evenly colored across the entire column, hit it with a piss coat of shellac first, then sand with 220 paper to smooth it out and then stain.
To make a piss coat of shellac use 1 part shellac to 2 parts denatured alcohol and wipe it on starting at the top and working down.
Cypress often has the habit of staining much darker in some spots than others and that makes if have a splotchy appearance.
Try it out of a scrap piece of wood to see what I mean. Shellac one side and not the other and see how the stain lays.
If you want the stain to come out more evenly colored across the entire column, hit it with a piss coat of shellac first, then sand with 220 paper to smooth it out and then stain.
To make a piss coat of shellac use 1 part shellac to 2 parts denatured alcohol and wipe it on starting at the top and working down.
Cypress often has the habit of staining much darker in some spots than others and that makes if have a splotchy appearance.
Try it out of a scrap piece of wood to see what I mean. Shellac one side and not the other and see how the stain lays.
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Interesting, I'll try that. The scrap piece I originally stained sucked it up pretty quickly, and was really dark
Just so you know, the shellac will be like water it is so viscous. That is why I recommend using a rag to apply it if the columns are standing in place, and only one coat with as little overlap as possible.
It will dry very quickly due to the alcohol evaporating, so there is very little down time before you can stain it.
re: TWP Stain on cypressPosted by Jon A thon on 1/6/21 at 9:31 pm to gumbo2176
you could also just use a pre-stain conditioner. Same concept I'm sure as the thinned shelac. Except it's specifically designed for it. limits stain abosrbtion so that area that typically "over-absorb" don't and everything comes out more even. I've had good results. Seems to me that if you don't get the shellac mixture right, you might put a seal coat over the wood. I use Shellac on my workbench to protect it from paints/stains/wood glue/etc..
I admit I'm not an expert though.
I admit I'm not an expert though.
re: TWP Stain on cypressPosted by gumbo2176 on 1/6/21 at 9:46 pm to Jon A thon
If you mix 2 parts denatured alcohol to 1 part shellac, you can't go wrong. Just use a measuring cup and do it in that ratio and it is foolproof.
What I love about this mix is the quickness in drying time. I've done pieces of furniture applying the piss coat and when done it only took a few minutes time and it could be sanded with 220 to give it a glass smooth surface to apply stain to.
Most other products like you mention take more time to dry so they can be sanded.
What I love about this mix is the quickness in drying time. I've done pieces of furniture applying the piss coat and when done it only took a few minutes time and it could be sanded with 220 to give it a glass smooth surface to apply stain to.
Most other products like you mention take more time to dry so they can be sanded.
re: TWP Stain on cypressPosted by Jon A thon on 1/6/21 at 9:57 pm to gumbo2176
I'm not talking about a sanding sealer. The pre stains I've used actually require you to stain within 2 hours of applying. I wait maybe 20 minutes. If you leave them too long, they aren't effective
re: TWP Stain on cypressPosted by TigerSprings on 1/8/21 at 10:21 am to MagnumTA
on 1/8/21 at 10:21 am to MagnumTAIs the wood sanded? That will make a huge difference in absorption.
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