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Shower rebuild options
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:22 am
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:22 am
Where’s the smart money for shower rebuilds these days?
I have a 36x48 stall that I’ve just demoed due to a serious leak at the curb. Looks like it had been leaking for a good portion of its life. It was all cultured marble panels, including the curb and floor that had just been sealed with silicone at all the joints. I’m reasonably handy but haven’t actually done any of this type of work before. Waterproofing and reliability/longevity is my #1 priority.
At this point, the options I'm drawn to I’m drawn to are a prefab insert or the Tile Redi pan with some sort of tile or panel finish. The GC I’ve talked with only does Schluter system but my research has made me a little shy of its reliability. This is for my own master bath, home value is $3-500k for reference. Wife (no pics) doesn’t really care what it looks like.
I have a 36x48 stall that I’ve just demoed due to a serious leak at the curb. Looks like it had been leaking for a good portion of its life. It was all cultured marble panels, including the curb and floor that had just been sealed with silicone at all the joints. I’m reasonably handy but haven’t actually done any of this type of work before. Waterproofing and reliability/longevity is my #1 priority.
At this point, the options I'm drawn to I’m drawn to are a prefab insert or the Tile Redi pan with some sort of tile or panel finish. The GC I’ve talked with only does Schluter system but my research has made me a little shy of its reliability. This is for my own master bath, home value is $3-500k for reference. Wife (no pics) doesn’t really care what it looks like.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:08 pm to turkish
No way would I put a prefab shower in a home. Especially one that nice. Custom shower is always your best option. Schluter systems are 100% waterproof with proper installation. The product won’t fail, just be sure guidelines are followed.
If you are reasonably handy and want to do this yourself you can access the John Bridge Forums and the people there can walk you through the whole process step by step. Very willing and helpful bunch of professional installers.
If you are reasonably handy and want to do this yourself you can access the John Bridge Forums and the people there can walk you through the whole process step by step. Very willing and helpful bunch of professional installers.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 12:09 pm to 9rocket
Thanks. Appreciate the direct input on the insert option. I needed that.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:02 pm to turkish
If the installer does it right, Schluter is a great system. I have two buddies that do tile full time and they swear by it, it's all they use now.
Our main tile guy still prefers concrete board on the walls and a traditional rubber pan with a concrete/sand mix mud bed with red guard over everything. That's what I used to do when I laid tile. If installed correctly, both ways are effective.
Schluter has been around long enough now that it's been widely viewed as a proven product. You go in any flooring supply store, and they're going to be selling Schluter or a similar product. Once you get the hang of it, it's an easier install as well. I wouldn't stress over any negative reviews you've seen online. Probably DIY'ers that view it as a pain in the arse (which it is the first few times).
I personally wouldn't go with a prefab pan. You're building a custom shower, no need to make part of it look like it's something from a mobile home. Nothing against mobile homes, but you're redoing it, you might as well make it nice.
Our main tile guy still prefers concrete board on the walls and a traditional rubber pan with a concrete/sand mix mud bed with red guard over everything. That's what I used to do when I laid tile. If installed correctly, both ways are effective.
Schluter has been around long enough now that it's been widely viewed as a proven product. You go in any flooring supply store, and they're going to be selling Schluter or a similar product. Once you get the hang of it, it's an easier install as well. I wouldn't stress over any negative reviews you've seen online. Probably DIY'ers that view it as a pain in the arse (which it is the first few times).
I personally wouldn't go with a prefab pan. You're building a custom shower, no need to make part of it look like it's something from a mobile home. Nothing against mobile homes, but you're redoing it, you might as well make it nice.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:47 pm to iwyLSUiwy
Thanks. The Tile Redi I’ve seen is a prefab pan that is intended to be tiled over. It seems to be very popular with some of the pros on YouTube.
The full insert I was referencing is a standalone prefab piece that is, indeed, mobile home-esque.
The full insert I was referencing is a standalone prefab piece that is, indeed, mobile home-esque.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 1:51 pm to turkish
O I got ya, I was misreading that. Yes, those can be good and make for any install. Schluter makes a base that can be cut to fit. If it's the same as it used to be, it's basically a Styrofoam base.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 4:47 pm to turkish
Love these responses.
I’m close to redoing all 3 of my showers, starting with the master, so this is all helpful information.
My wife has been pushing for a redo that is easier to clean, so she’s been leaning hard for a prefab shower pan.
The part that makes more sense to me is to put full slabs on the walls rather than individual tiles, and no glass. All glass seems to collect mineralization, which isn’t as noticeable on slab walls. So we’ll probably go with low shower walls high enough to contain major splashes, but an open entrance to the shower located in an area with enough distance from walls that won’t lead to a lot of water on the floor.
I’m close to redoing all 3 of my showers, starting with the master, so this is all helpful information.
My wife has been pushing for a redo that is easier to clean, so she’s been leaning hard for a prefab shower pan.
The part that makes more sense to me is to put full slabs on the walls rather than individual tiles, and no glass. All glass seems to collect mineralization, which isn’t as noticeable on slab walls. So we’ll probably go with low shower walls high enough to contain major splashes, but an open entrance to the shower located in an area with enough distance from walls that won’t lead to a lot of water on the floor.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 6:38 pm to Willie Stroker
Don’t think you will like the prefab shower pan. A properly sloped tile floor will not need much cleaning. And, you have a tile floor, instead of an acrylic pan.
I do like a lot of glass, the more the better, but it’s quite expensive. The slabs below the glass can be a really good look.
Good plan on the entry also.
I do like a lot of glass, the more the better, but it’s quite expensive. The slabs below the glass can be a really good look.
Good plan on the entry also.
Posted on 1/13/25 at 7:52 pm to 9rocket
Are you familiar with Tile Redi?
I first heard of them on the Home Renovision YouTube channel. He seems to have some favor around here and he seems to love their pan and wall system.
I first heard of them on the Home Renovision YouTube channel. He seems to have some favor around here and he seems to love their pan and wall system.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:47 pm to turkish
I am not. We’ve been installing Schluter shower systems for 20+ years. I no longer install showers but my son may be. I’ll check with him tomorrow and see if he is familiar.
Again, let me suggest visiting the John Bridge Forums. A ton of information on there.
Dang, those appear to be expensive. At a quick glance they look about twice the cost of Schluter.
I prefer the mud bed. Few sacks of mud and you’re set. Just build it to fit your particular shower.
Again, let me suggest visiting the John Bridge Forums. A ton of information on there.
Dang, those appear to be expensive. At a quick glance they look about twice the cost of Schluter.
I prefer the mud bed. Few sacks of mud and you’re set. Just build it to fit your particular shower.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:06 pm
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:37 pm to turkish
I did my master shower years ago with a product called KBRS, similar to Tile Redi but I think was a little cheaper option. Concrete board on the walls, tape and thin set on all the seams and corners, then a bunch of red guard layers.
Posted on 1/17/25 at 6:11 pm to turkish
Schluter system are the standard
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