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re: Sand to level a backyard

Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:20 pm to
Masonry sand is the way to go as others have mentioned. But I'll add this. At least in my area NWA there's a few suppliers who'll mix an actual topdressing. I can't remember the ratios but we call it infield mix. It's basically a mix of masonry sand and screened topsoil. Spreads evenly like sand but also stays in one spot better like topsoil.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4507 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 7:55 am to
Thanks. Will call today and give an update. I called Leblanc brothers and Lafargue and they didn't sell it, nor did they know where to get it. Forgot about Schriever.
Posted by Art Vandelay
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Member since Sep 2005
10702 posts
Posted on 2/13/20 at 5:59 pm to
Did you call antique? Called today and got a sack this afternoon
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4507 posts
Posted on 2/14/20 at 10:28 am to
Yes I was able to call this morning. Schriever Concrete, Antique Brick, and Dufrene Building Material in Thibodaux all sell bulk masonry sand by the yard. Not sure if posting prices will ruffle any feathers on here, but:

Schriever Concrete - $25 per yard loose picked up
Dufrene Building Material - $48 per yard loose picked up, $75 per yard delivered, if delivering more than 3 yeards its $48 per yard delivered.
Antique Brick - $68 per yard in a super sack picked up.

Posted by Art Vandelay
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/18/20 at 9:32 pm to
I don’t think the super sack is quite a yard. But it’s the best sand of all options listed. Dufrene looks like they dredged that shite from grand isle.

Buy a super sack from antique and keep the sack and let Schriever fill it next time.
Posted by Picayuner
Member since Dec 2016
3491 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 6:25 am to
Only use river sand. It's full of nutrients and it's clean of weeds. River sand is the ONLY way to go. You said it's for yard fill - ONLY river sand. Other sands are for construction, patio, etc.....
This post was edited on 2/19/20 at 6:27 am
Posted by Art Vandelay
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/19/20 at 6:39 am to
River sand is great if you want torpedo grass. Don’t know how you think it’s free of weeds
Posted by tigerbater
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
661 posts
Posted on 2/19/20 at 8:14 am to
Just had an addition / remodel done on my house and when they were finished, they brought in a bunch of bags of sand that were either the Quickrete "play sand" or the Quickrete masonry sand mentioned to regrade my back yard. I was told it would be river sand and was a little annoyed that it was not, but after reading this thread it sounds like I dodged a bullet.

Should I mix in some compost and or topsoil?
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
18731 posts
Posted on 2/20/20 at 12:47 pm to
One think you can count on.... no answer is clear cut.

Love this place!
Posted by ShreveportLSU
Member since Aug 2012
114 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 8:56 am to
I need to do this as well. My backyard has a pretty decent slope, so should I wait until after the rainy season to fill?
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:45 am to
quote:

need to do this as well. My backyard has a pretty decent slope, so should I wait until after the rainy season to fill?

If you read the article by Dan Gill, first page, second post, he recommends waiting until your grass is actively growing, that is to prevent smothering of dormant grass. If the grass is actively growing, and you add 2 inches or less, the grass will grow through the sand. If you need more than 2 inches to fill the area, you can fill up to 2 inches, let the grass grow through it to fill in, then come back and add additional sand, never exceeding 2 inches per application.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 9:55 am to
Posted by ShreveportLSU
Member since Aug 2012
114 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:10 am to
I was more worried about runoff from the rain. I didn't even think about smothering the dormant grass, so thanks for that.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5266 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 10:17 am to
Heavy rain can move sand on a slope until you have roots to stabilize it, so would be best to wait.
Posted by BeerThirty
Red Stick
Member since May 2017
898 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 6:19 pm to
I was wondering the same, if you have a little deeper spot to level if topsoil should be mixed in at a 50/50.
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
4507 posts
Posted on 2/24/20 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Buy a super sack from antique and keep the sack and let Schriever fill it next time.


Yea I'll go with Schriever for a third of the price.

Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18963 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:12 am to
Is something like this good to fill in low spots?

LINK

I'm looking for something that I'll only need a few 50-80lb bags.
This post was edited on 2/27/20 at 8:18 am
Posted by GoldenSombrero
Member since Sep 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Is something like this good to fill in low spots?

LINK

I'm looking for something that I'll only need a few 50-80lb bags.


Yes. When I don't need a full truckload I get 2 bags of that and 1 bag of a screened topsoil and mix together.
Posted by Adam4848
LA
Member since Apr 2006
18963 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 9:14 am to
Thanks
Posted by Downtown Devin Brown
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2013
1523 posts
Posted on 2/27/20 at 10:16 am to
Did you update the link or something? Because I could have sworn you linked concrete mix last night
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