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Replacing Shade Tree
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:10 am
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:10 am
Had a tree close to the house that was in the ground for 10 years taken out by Francine (that bitch). It provided a good bit of shade to my back patio and want to plant something that will eventually do the same.
Looking for recs for a fast growing shade tree that wont create a mess on the patio.
Leaders in the clubhouse (in no particular order):
Chinese Pistache
Sugar Maple
Red Maple
Shumard Oak (not sure how fast growing this option is)
Any experiences with any of these you could share would be helpful as well. Whatever I do plant, I would like to put in a 8'-10' tree or larger (>30 gal I'm guessing), do local nurseries usually carry that large?
Also, what are your tree staking methods for support of a young tree not yet established? Simple stakes? T Posts?
The tree I lost was an elm tree. Not opposed to another, just may not been the best for my situation.
Looking for recs for a fast growing shade tree that wont create a mess on the patio.
Leaders in the clubhouse (in no particular order):
Chinese Pistache
Sugar Maple
Red Maple
Shumard Oak (not sure how fast growing this option is)
Any experiences with any of these you could share would be helpful as well. Whatever I do plant, I would like to put in a 8'-10' tree or larger (>30 gal I'm guessing), do local nurseries usually carry that large?
Also, what are your tree staking methods for support of a young tree not yet established? Simple stakes? T Posts?
The tree I lost was an elm tree. Not opposed to another, just may not been the best for my situation.
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Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:15 am to Splackavellie
I planted two Chinese Pistache trees two years ago and have really not been impressed with their growth. I planted three Florida Flame maples and they've done really well. I'd recommend them.
All of these trees drop leaves in the fall so you'll have a mess to deal with then, FWIW.
All of these trees drop leaves in the fall so you'll have a mess to deal with then, FWIW.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:19 am to bluemoons
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I planted two Chinese Pistache trees two years ago and have really not been impressed with their growth.
Is it just the rate of growth you haven't been happy with? How big were they when you planted them?
I've read that they really aren't the prettiest tree when young but do shape up nicely as they mature.
quote:
Florida Flame maples
Never heard of this one, will check it out.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:23 am to Splackavellie
My parents have river birches around their patio. They drop small twigs but aren't really that messy and have grown quickly.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:32 am to Splackavellie
They were probably 6-7" caliper and large. 12-14' tall and ball/burlap. They got shocked on transplant first year, but I expected them to rebound this year and they've almost done the opposite. I also bought them based on what I heard about their fall coloring and that's been pretty disappointing as well. They're yellow for like 10 days then drop their leaves. My Shumard oaks are much prettier.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 10:06 am to Splackavellie
Not sure what kind of elm you're replacing, but I had a drake elm at my old house that was a great shade tree and they grow pretty quickly. The only issue may be that if you have any flower beds nearby you'll be pulling up seedlings pretty steadily.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 10:20 am to Splackavellie
shumard oak
willow oak
water oak
all very fast growing and makes a pretty tree while juvenile. Water and willow will eventually become a fall hazard in about 40 years
willow oak
water oak
all very fast growing and makes a pretty tree while juvenile. Water and willow will eventually become a fall hazard in about 40 years
Posted on 9/17/24 at 10:24 am to Splackavellie
Princeton Elm would be my choice.
Red Maples aren’t very good
Chinese Pistache isn’t reliable and slow grower
Wouldn’t plant an oak near my house
Sugar maple might be ok if it will grow in your conditions
Red Maples aren’t very good
Chinese Pistache isn’t reliable and slow grower
Wouldn’t plant an oak near my house
Sugar maple might be ok if it will grow in your conditions
Posted on 9/17/24 at 10:25 am to cgrand
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water oak
Don’t tell him that. That’s a shite tree man
Posted on 9/17/24 at 10:34 am to Splackavellie
Empress tree
Posted on 9/17/24 at 10:39 am to Splackavellie
quote:
Leaders in the clubhouse (in no particular order): Chinese Pistache Sugar Maple Red Maple Shumard Oak (not sure how fast growing this option is)
All good selections but with regards to Shumard oak do you want 60-80 ft tree when you are old & gray vs the others that are 1/2 that size at maturity? Or you will let the next owner of your house worry about that.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 10:42 am to CrawDude
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All good selections but with regards to Shumard oak do you want 60-80 ft tree when you are old & gray vs the others that are 1/2 that size at maturity?
Good question, hadnt really thought about that.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:13 am to Splackavellie
To piggyback
Anyone have a recommendation for a tree to be planted between 2 houses?
I'd say there is probably 10 feet from where the tree would be planted to each house.
I lost an oak tree that was there a couple years ago and would like to replace it.
Not sure if I should go back in with a Shumard or if there are better options.
Anyone have a recommendation for a tree to be planted between 2 houses?
I'd say there is probably 10 feet from where the tree would be planted to each house.
I lost an oak tree that was there a couple years ago and would like to replace it.
Not sure if I should go back in with a Shumard or if there are better options.
Posted on 9/17/24 at 11:24 am to Splackavellie
You might want to start by visiting a tree nursery before checking general retail nurseries. A grower one is Holloways. LINK /
They will be able to get any size you want or can afford.
To increase your likelihood of success, make your selection now but wait until Jan/Feb. to plant.
If you are near Baton Rouge, Scott Courtwright is a respected arborist/forester.
LINK /
They will be able to get any size you want or can afford.
To increase your likelihood of success, make your selection now but wait until Jan/Feb. to plant.
If you are near Baton Rouge, Scott Courtwright is a respected arborist/forester.
LINK /
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:17 pm to Tree_Fall
Sycamore
Posted on 9/17/24 at 9:50 pm to Splackavellie
We have an ash beside our patio. Very fast grower. Branches grow in odd directions but if you stay on top of it and prune it, it will form a nice canopy. Also of a storm takes out a branch it doesn’t affect it’s appearance… it’s an ash. Not winning any symmetry awards but great for shade, and fast.
I just used wood stakes.
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what are your tree staking methods for support of a young tree not yet established? Simple stakes?
I just used wood stakes.
This post was edited on 9/17/24 at 9:52 pm
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