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re: price for new AC
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:03 am to MardiGrasCajun
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:03 am to MardiGrasCajun
quote:
Sure they can.
Nope. All 410a new units had to cease being made Dec 31, 2024. And they have to sell all the ones they made by Dec 31, 2025. Jan 1, 2026 no new 410a units can be sold.
You can still import new 410a up to Dec 31, 2025, but they have to be sold and installed before Jan 1, 2026
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 11:07 am
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 1:05 pm to BigBinBR
do u have an AC recommendation in BR?
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:16 pm to Deep Purple Haze
Getting quoted $8,500 for a 3.5 ton Goodman unit (Slidell). Using existing ductwork so swapping the air handler and the outdoor unit. Supposed to be getting a written quote this evening to confirm specs on the unit.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:19 pm to Deep Purple Haze
Got a quote today for a 2 ton 14 seer Trane unit for $11.5k in Denham Springs.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:23 pm to Steve Meve
this thread is depressing. two 3 tons and a 2 ton... i mean that's gonna be a 40k+ bill one day soon.
that could buy me a lot of window units.
that could buy me a lot of window units.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:25 pm to Chad504boy
Yeah dude, I had a 3 ton replaced in ~2011 for 4k. Definitely a kick in the nuts. Got several more companies lined up for quotes in the next couple days.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:33 pm to Steve Meve
let me know if you get one under 10k
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:41 pm to ChewyDante
You swapping the furnace with that Goodman too?
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:43 pm to Steve Meve
Furnace too?
Posted on 7/9/25 at 1:10 pm to BigBinBR
quote:
Nope. All 410a new units had to cease being made Dec 31, 2024. And they have to sell all the ones they made by Dec 31, 2025. Jan 1, 2026 no new 410a units can be sold. You can still import new 410a up to Dec 31, 2025, but they have to be sold and installed before Jan 1, 2026
Wrong…read the rule I posted a few back.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 1:15 pm to Deep Purple Haze
Just replaced a 14 SEER 2 ton single stage Trane in a rent house for 10k cash
Kept same ductwork
Kept same ductwork
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 7/9/25 at 1:19 pm to zippyputt
quote:
Great info, thanks. Does this EPA rule translate to the consumer being able to get the equipment or are HVAC folks using this to gouge or mislead (intentionally or unintentionally) consumers to buy more expensive units? I had a building inspector tell me that anything mfg and installed before about 3-4 years ago must be replaced. We were just chatting and he was not trying to sell me anything. He seemed poorly informed it seems.
Most contractors are misinformed, don’t understand the rule or they’re taking advantage of consumers. You can have a new R410a condenser installed as a replacement “if” you can get one. And, you can do this forever. You cannot install a complete R410a system unless it was manufactured prior to Jan.1st, 2025. And, the R410a system must be installed before Jan 1st, 2026. Most manufacturers have stopped making R410a “components” because they’re not in the business of selling replacement components (condensers, coils, air handlers). They want to sell complete systems. They’re not going to tie up production lines to build “service components”. They need those lines running new A2L related products. Also, don’t let anyone tell you R410a is being phased out. It’s not. It’s being phased down.
One last thing about contractors. If there wasn’t a field for contractors, the prisons would have a lot more inmates.
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 7/9/25 at 1:44 pm to MardiGrasCajun
Just got quoted for a 5-ton and a 2-ton, both would be Lennox. Lots of variables on pricing but I was given options from the "budget" to the "Cadillac". The 5-ton ranged from almost $24k (variable speed, 20.5 SEER AC, variable speed gas furnace) to $15k (single stage, 13.8 SEER AC, two-stage gas furnace), and the 20-ton ranged from $20k (variable speed, 20 SEER AC, variable speed gas furnace) to $11k (single stage, 16 SEER AC, two-stage gas furnace). This was all before current promotions of 10-15% off or 0% financing.
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 9:44 am
Posted on 7/9/25 at 2:33 pm to MardiGrasCajun
quote:
Wrong…read the rule I posted a few back.
Straight from the EPA:
quote:EPA
Homeowner Questions on Residential Air Conditioner Split Systems
My R-410A unitary air conditioner condensing unit broke. Do I need to buy a whole new system with the lower-GWP refrigerant or can I replace the faulty component?
Homeowners can maintain and repair their systems throughout the useful life of the equipment. A homeowner can replace a faulty component (e.g., condensing unit, indoor coil, other smaller parts) with a similar R-410A component. After January 1, 2026, if a whole new system is installed it must use lower-GWP refrigerant.
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:39 pm to BigBinBR
quote:
A homeowner can replace a faulty component (e.g., condensing unit,
You can’t read.
quote:
After January 1, 2026, if a whole new system is installed it must use lower-GWP refrigerant.
Read…keyword “system”. Read it aloud so you can hear it.
Again, you can replace a R410a condenser forever. It’s a component of a system. It’s right there in front of you. It’s literally written in there by the EPA.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 6:30 pm to MardiGrasCajun
quote:
You can’t read.
Apparently you can’t read. My post originally said “new units.” A condenser isn’t a unit. A compressor isn’t a unit.
Of course you can still buy a 410a compressor or condenser. I can still buy an R22 compressor. But neither of those are units they are parts.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 10:10 pm to MardiGrasCajun
Thanks for the information. 
Posted on 7/10/25 at 5:14 am to Deep Purple Haze
If replacing an entire unit tomorrow, can you put in a 410 system? Inside and out? I remember years back when they had a minimum SEER rating, they could still install, till all were sold, or something like that. Might have been the same when they switched to 410.
This post was edited on 7/10/25 at 5:17 am
Posted on 7/10/25 at 7:32 am to LSUDad
quote:Yes. I was quoted about $1500 less for a 410 system yesterday.
If replacing an entire unit tomorrow, can you put in a 410 system? Inside and out?
Posted on 7/10/25 at 9:23 am to AFtigerFan
This thread is making me appreciate having a friend in the HVAC business. Just had a 5 ton Goodman (R-32) installed for $9800.00.
These prices are insane.
These prices are insane.
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