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re: Pool Owners step inside
Posted on 11/24/22 at 7:00 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
Posted on 11/24/22 at 7:00 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
I use pucks as well. And I’m keeping an eye on CYA. I can’t imagine the pain in the arse it would be to try to continually track down and maintain “fresh/effective” liquid bleach on hand.
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:30 am to TDTOM
I got behind this summer and got that black algae in my pool bad. It took 2-3 good shocks to get it off and lots of brushing. If you DIY your pool maintenance like I do make sure you plan during vacation. Maybe get someone to keep and eye to make sure everything is running like it should.
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:33 pm to Art Vandelay
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Maybe get someone to keep and eye
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:59 am to BMoney
quote:My experience also.
1. Add water - Autofill takes care of it. It definitely got used more than normal in September/October.
2. Have to brush green algae - Never
3. Shock - Never
Posted on 11/26/22 at 7:04 pm to TDTOM
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I use the puck style. I have chlorine with a UV light system.
CYA could be high. If so your chlorine level needs to be higher. Shock isn’t necessary if chlorine level is correct for your CYA level. Troublefreepool.com is a great resource and you don’t have to use bleach but you do need to understand the chemistry. Pucks are convenient but convenience always comes at a price (CYA).
Posted on 11/29/22 at 8:59 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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Test your cyanuric acid if you’re having trouble.
Troublefreepool.com is a good website to understand pool chemistry. The test kit they like is a bit pricey but worth it to learn the chemistry. Those guys are hard core against pucks and pool designed chemicals. They want you to use bleach and baking soda only. They 100% completely ignore the convenience of pucks and act like everyone has an hour a day to dedicate to pool maintenance.
I had a cya buildup in my pool and didn’t realize it. Tried the tfp method for like 3 months and said frick it, I’ll just drain the damn thing every 3 years and go with the easy button (pucks). My water was super cheap so draining and filling was like $75. Easy money to spend to not have to jack with the pool daily.
this, frick TFP and their everyday bullshite, nobody has time for that
to answer OP
1) i have auto fill and auto drain so never have to mess with that
2) rarely do i have to brush on this one(chlorine) or my last salt water pool. i do have a tanning deck that does tend to get more sun, so if i get any algie there...i know its time to shock
3) I have chlorine pool at this house...during the summer i seem to have to add 1 gallon of acid and 2 lbs of shock every 2 weeks. from october-march...maybe shock twice max
my dolphin stays in the pool and runs almost every day. Pool is always crystal clear.
but all of this is going to depend on if you have trees near by, how the sun hits it etc
as far as the question on price...gunite-90-100k if you hot tub, fiberglass- last i checked was around 60-70k maybe more now
Posted on 11/29/22 at 2:28 pm to TDTOM
1. BR, so basically never. I have to pump my damp pool out, usually, so i dont flood my flowerbeds.
2. Only if i miss a chlorine addition and have a small bloom.
3. never. you should SLAM your pool, and if you properly maintain your levels you should never have to shock.
2. Only if i miss a chlorine addition and have a small bloom.
3. never. you should SLAM your pool, and if you properly maintain your levels you should never have to shock.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 3:58 pm to lsu777
Wife and I just got a quote on a pool last night with a spa tanning ledge, a small waterfall, pebble tech and 750 sq ft of decking. Quote was $95k. Came back today and they came down to $90k. I was expecting $85k before the person came out so that was in the ballpark of what I expected.
Got 3 more bids to collect before making a decision.
Got 3 more bids to collect before making a decision.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 4:52 pm to TaderSalad
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Salt water fiberglass pool. Super easy to maintain.
What would ne of these run see days?
These days it's a lot more than what I paid several years ago. Pool, pump, lights, tile, deck, etc was $43K when I had it installed. It would cost me closer to $60K for the same setup today.
Posted on 11/29/22 at 7:04 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
Just curious the wife and I are about start getting quotes here soon. What made them come down from the original price?
Posted on 11/30/22 at 2:19 pm to TDTOM
I’ve had a bad run with algae lately. I think my salt cell is bad and trying to decide between replacing the cell or the entire system for an update/upgrade but not sure how to verify the cell is bad. I tried cleaning it as directed and of course added a ton of salt but no lasting improvement. Kind of at a stand still at present.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:45 am to LSUSLU106
Not sure I can answer that question, but here's my long winded answer. Ha. I've had the best luck negotiating contracts by being sincerely nice and making the appearance that you're doing what you can on your side to get the price down before trying to get them to reduce their price arbitrarily. If you are somewhat hard headed and high maintenance acting, they tend to see you as a future problem so I shy away from that negotiating style.
Before she calculated the quote, we all took bets on the quote, and she actually agreed with our number more or less and the calculated amount was $12k more. We're not wildly off on budget vs quote, but 12k isn't a small amount per se.
We had 3 costly requirements which were pebbletech ($5k) additional decking ($7k) and the hot tub ($14k). The wife wants pebbletech and the hot tub and those aren't negotiable. Removing the decking creates some maintenance concerns with me so I didn't want to remove that. We played with the sizing but it didn't move the needle enough. Ultimately we decided we'd rather pay the extra amount and keep those items. As she was leaving she mentioned that she would talk to her GM and see if he would be willing to reduce the price a little closer to our budgeted number and the next day she came back with $90k. Our goal was $85k.
The rest of the cost centers on the breakdown were not enough to move the quote material amounts (everything was less than $1,000, most less than $500). They were over our original self set budget by $12k and honestly I think the lady was nice and wanted to do our pool. So she came back within $5k over our budgeted price and threw in an electronic cleaner which helps bridge some of that $5k value further. It's the quote we will likely go with unless the last company bids something we can't turn down. We are also in the county so there is no permit or HOA paperwork, which I'm sure are factored into their price. So they may have foregone those cost centers and knocked a little extra off.
Definitely get multiple bids. We had another one last night. Nice girl, young, but she couldn't design the pool on sight and we touched on pricing and it seems like the bid is going to be well over $100k. But we will see. Have one more coming next Tuesday that my sister used and liked, so we will see with him also.
Before she calculated the quote, we all took bets on the quote, and she actually agreed with our number more or less and the calculated amount was $12k more. We're not wildly off on budget vs quote, but 12k isn't a small amount per se.
We had 3 costly requirements which were pebbletech ($5k) additional decking ($7k) and the hot tub ($14k). The wife wants pebbletech and the hot tub and those aren't negotiable. Removing the decking creates some maintenance concerns with me so I didn't want to remove that. We played with the sizing but it didn't move the needle enough. Ultimately we decided we'd rather pay the extra amount and keep those items. As she was leaving she mentioned that she would talk to her GM and see if he would be willing to reduce the price a little closer to our budgeted number and the next day she came back with $90k. Our goal was $85k.
The rest of the cost centers on the breakdown were not enough to move the quote material amounts (everything was less than $1,000, most less than $500). They were over our original self set budget by $12k and honestly I think the lady was nice and wanted to do our pool. So she came back within $5k over our budgeted price and threw in an electronic cleaner which helps bridge some of that $5k value further. It's the quote we will likely go with unless the last company bids something we can't turn down. We are also in the county so there is no permit or HOA paperwork, which I'm sure are factored into their price. So they may have foregone those cost centers and knocked a little extra off.
Definitely get multiple bids. We had another one last night. Nice girl, young, but she couldn't design the pool on sight and we touched on pricing and it seems like the bid is going to be well over $100k. But we will see. Have one more coming next Tuesday that my sister used and liked, so we will see with him also.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:50 am to Havoc
I've only had a chlorine pool. Talking to two pool companies so far, they have both suggested not going with salt. Personally I don't see any major benefit of a salt pool. I'm opposed to additional costly equipment, and I had 0 problem maintaining a chlorine pool. Spent maybe $400 on chlorine a year. Even if that number were cut in half on salt, I don't see the benefit.
Can someone explain the benefit of the salt systems?
Can someone explain the benefit of the salt systems?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 10:49 am to WhiskeyThrottle
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Can someone explain the benefit of the salt systems?
Cheaper and easier to maintain, while also being better for your skin and hair.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:08 am to BMoney
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Cheaper and easier to maintain,
You're note particularly quantifying this statement.
I can say it's cheaper and easier to maintain a chlorine pool. And I've never had any issues with skin or hair.
Quantifying my statement:
My chlorine pool was maintained with nominal amounts of chlorine, and I posted I spent a max of $400 a year on chlorine.
The salt equipment alone would take 12.5 years alone to justify the expense if you reduced the chlorine expense to 0. And at year 5 or 6 salt cells start to have issues so you add maintenance items.
I spent about 15 minutes a week maintaining my chlorine pool in peak months. How easier are we talking to maintain?
Posted on 12/1/22 at 11:50 am to WhiskeyThrottle
i have had both, both are about the same to maintain and cost about the same overall
i like things about both but to me any positive about with salt is outweighed with having to clean and replace salt cells and the constant corrosion of any metal around a salt water pool vs chlorine.
i like things about both but to me any positive about with salt is outweighed with having to clean and replace salt cells and the constant corrosion of any metal around a salt water pool vs chlorine.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 1:21 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
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I spent about 15 minutes a week maintaining my chlorine pool in peak months. How easier are we talking to maintain?
I've put 2 bags of salt in my pool this calendar year. Other than that, less than 5 minutes a week.
I'm not saying there's zero maintenance, but it's so miniscule and easy to do, I wouldn't go any other way besides salt.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 2:37 pm to BMoney
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I've put 2 bags of salt in my pool this calendar year. Other than that, less than 5 minutes a week.
I'm not saying there's zero maintenance, but it's so miniscule and easy to do, I wouldn't go any other way besides salt.
So I can only speak for my experience and the difference between 15 minutes and a few minutes a week of pseudo work (mostly done with beer in my hand) and a 50lb bucket of chlorine a year just isn't worth shelling out the extra for salt in my situation.
Do you have trees or vegetation around your pool? I didn't have any trees around my pool. Closest one was like 50 or 60 yards away. Seems like plants are what causes more problems with pools than anything else.
Posted on 12/1/22 at 9:13 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
Pic of my pool. Closet trees are those palms, unless you count the small sweet olives. Lots of vegetation in our beds, but nothing that sheds. The lounge chairs are 3 1/2 years old and show no signs of corrosion on their metal frames. I’m completely satisfied with my salt system, but don’t have a chlorine system to compare it to.
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