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Please help me set my irrigation system days/run times:
Posted on 5/2/19 at 10:46 am
Posted on 5/2/19 at 10:46 am
I have no idea what I'm doing here. I think it's set up now to run 4 days a week in the flower beds and 2 days a week in the yard. I believe each zone is set at 30 minutes for the yard and about 12 in the beds.
I don't have any reason for that set up. I've heard you should measure the output and set it to so many inches of water but I really would rather someone just tell me what to do.
Thanks.
I don't have any reason for that set up. I've heard you should measure the output and set it to so many inches of water but I really would rather someone just tell me what to do.
Thanks.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 10:57 am to OysterPoBoy
What time of day is it set to run at?
Mine run at 5am M/W/SAT with 3 zones (grass only) and run for 20 mins. Needs to be early enough so that the water don't scorch your lawn with the heat of the day.
Mine run at 5am M/W/SAT with 3 zones (grass only) and run for 20 mins. Needs to be early enough so that the water don't scorch your lawn with the heat of the day.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 10:59 am to OysterPoBoy
Look into a Rachio Smart Controller.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 11:00 am to OysterPoBoy
That sounds like a helluve alot of water.
I live in one of the driest areas in the country and I have six zones set to run between 7-10 minutes every other day (depending on where/what they are watering). My landscaping company set mine as well, so that's the extent of my knowledge.
(nevermind, I missed the 2 days a week in the yard part)
I live in one of the driest areas in the country and I have six zones set to run between 7-10 minutes every other day (depending on where/what they are watering). My landscaping company set mine as well, so that's the extent of my knowledge.
(nevermind, I missed the 2 days a week in the yard part)
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 11:05 am
Posted on 5/2/19 at 11:29 am to idlewatcher
It’s set to start at 5:00 AM.
I just rechecked and the flower beds are MWF for 15 minutes. Lawn is 2 days for 30.
I’m not saying it’s for sure wrong just that I don’t have any reasoning behind it.
I just rechecked and the flower beds are MWF for 15 minutes. Lawn is 2 days for 30.
I’m not saying it’s for sure wrong just that I don’t have any reasoning behind it.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 11:34 am to OysterPoBoy
Recommendation for landscape beds and lawn is 1 inch of water per week spring, summer, fall (excluding winter). Take rainfall into consideration in the 1 inch.
That sounds like way to much water for your landscape beds. You can kill plants more easily from root rot from excess water than drought. I speak from personal experience on that.
Better to water less frequently but water deep. You want the roots of your plants, be they flowers, shrubs, trees or grass, to grow deep, searching for water.
Place some empty tuna cans (something similar) in your flower beds and lawn to collect the water during sprinkler operation to determine how much water you are getting with your current schedule, and adjust your sprinkler schedule and length of operation accordingly to provide that 1 inch. Obviously you’ll have to play with that to hit on the right combination.
Better to water once a week with 1 inch, than 4 times a week at 1/4 inch. However, if you have impervious clay soils in your lawn you may have water less, e.g., 1/4 inch 4 days a week or 1/2 inch twice a week to prevent water runoff. I can’t water my lawn 1 inch at a time b/c 1/2 the water would run off b/c I have heavy clay soil and it takes time for the water to soak in.
Obviously each persons sprinkler system is different and provides different water output, so you have to figure it out using the guideline provided above.
That sounds like way to much water for your landscape beds. You can kill plants more easily from root rot from excess water than drought. I speak from personal experience on that.
Better to water less frequently but water deep. You want the roots of your plants, be they flowers, shrubs, trees or grass, to grow deep, searching for water.
Place some empty tuna cans (something similar) in your flower beds and lawn to collect the water during sprinkler operation to determine how much water you are getting with your current schedule, and adjust your sprinkler schedule and length of operation accordingly to provide that 1 inch. Obviously you’ll have to play with that to hit on the right combination.
Better to water once a week with 1 inch, than 4 times a week at 1/4 inch. However, if you have impervious clay soils in your lawn you may have water less, e.g., 1/4 inch 4 days a week or 1/2 inch twice a week to prevent water runoff. I can’t water my lawn 1 inch at a time b/c 1/2 the water would run off b/c I have heavy clay soil and it takes time for the water to soak in.
Obviously each persons sprinkler system is different and provides different water output, so you have to figure it out using the guideline provided above.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 12:03 pm to CrawDude
Good info. I guess I’ll put something out to collect water. I have heavy clay soil also.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:48 pm to OysterPoBoy
you need to figure out how deep you are watering. Time doesn't matter. only how deep the water is soaking into the soil.
Next look up what type of root system your grass has. If the roots are shallow like bluegrass, you probably only need to water about 2-3" deep with each watering.
If it has deeper roots like fescue, you will want to water more like 4-5" deep at a time.
Then time between waterings depends on how long it takes to dry out to those depths. You need the soil to dry down to almost the bottom of the roots before watering again. This drying out process pulls oxygen from the air down to the roots. Watering too much prevents the roots from getting all the oxygen they need.
Next look up what type of root system your grass has. If the roots are shallow like bluegrass, you probably only need to water about 2-3" deep with each watering.
If it has deeper roots like fescue, you will want to water more like 4-5" deep at a time.
Then time between waterings depends on how long it takes to dry out to those depths. You need the soil to dry down to almost the bottom of the roots before watering again. This drying out process pulls oxygen from the air down to the roots. Watering too much prevents the roots from getting all the oxygen they need.
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 5/2/19 at 4:06 pm to notsince98
I figured it would be complicated. So this time of year when we're getting a good bit of rain should I just have it off?
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:31 pm to OysterPoBoy
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figured it would be complicated. So this time of year when we're getting a good bit of rain should I just have it off?
Do you have a rain sensor attached to your controller? If not, do you have the skills to add one?
Posted on 5/2/19 at 9:41 pm to TAMU-93
quote:Agree. It can manage the whole thing for you depending on where you live, the yard and landscaping conditions and based on readings from local weather stations.
Look into a Rachio Smart Controller.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 10:10 pm to Jimbeaux28
quote:
Do you have a rain sensor attached to your controller? If not, do you have the skills to add one?
You can also get soil moisture sensors that will not let the system run until the soil gets dry enough. This is the optimal way to control but those sensors might be expensive.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:35 am to Jimbeaux28
quote:
Do you have a rain sensor attached to your controller?
Agreed. All these systems should have these. Surprised they don't come with the controller already these days.
OP - the rain sensor will cut your water cycle if it detects any heavy moisture (ie. rain) with little discs that swell when wet which triggers the cut off.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:45 am to idlewatcher
I've been following this thread as I was wondering the same thing. So the rain sensors will also prevent overwatering when it has not rained for awhile?
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:01 am to scott8811
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So the rain sensors will also prevent overwatering when it has not rained for awhile?
The rain sensor prevents your system from running when there is or has been significant rainfall in your yard.
I have the Rachio controller, which connects to local weather stations to not only prevent your system from running when there has been significant rain, but also prevent it from running when a set threshold of rain is predicted for your area.
Highly recommend spending the money to get the Rachio!
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:58 pm to OysterPoBoy
I bet someone from Slidell could figure it out for you.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:45 pm to OysterPoBoy
quote:
figured it would be complicated
Really not that complicated, we all have a tendency to overthink things. And though having a rain gauge sensor is a great idea for a lawn irrigation system, if your current system can not accommodate one or you don’t want to go to the trouble and expense of installing one, I just use a $ 5 rain gauge and record the amount of rain after a rainfall event on my MS Outlook Calendar (no way to remember all those numbers). Check the calendar once a week, if I get less than an inch of rain that week I water thoroughly. If I get a an inch or more I don’t. Works for me.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:53 pm to nismosao
quote:
I bet someone from Slidell could figure it out for you.
That's probably the most insulted I've ever been.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:57 pm to TAMU-93
quote:
Look into a Rachio Smart Controller.
After much deliberation, I believe I will go this route.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 3:37 pm to scott8811
quote:
So the rain sensors will also prevent overwatering when it has not rained for awhile?
Jimbo gave you a good explanation, but I would add that it cuts off the water period so you actually can't water (nor overwater in this case). It's an automated process that tells the solenoids not to open until the discs are once again dry.
The science behind the discs is pretty fascinating to me although quite trivial to most.
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