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Owner Builder help.
Posted on 9/7/19 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 9/7/19 at 1:33 pm
I see that quite a few guys here have GC'd their own home builds.
My wife and I are having plans drawn up right now and have decided that we are going to contract it ourselves.
I would've PM'd the guys I saw that did this already, but I can't find any kind of private/direct message options.
That being said, I've begun making lists of all of the trades I will need for the build, and companies that I will send plans to for bids on the jobs.
If anyone out there, that's done this before, would be willing to share your sheets of who you had bid on your project, and who you decided to go with, I'd really, really appreciate it. If there are subs you'd recommend, that'd be great, and if there are subs you would absolutely stay away from, please by all means let me know.
I've got the HVAC down because of a friend in the industry, but everything else,from dirt work to painting, is up for grabs. If you are a tradesman here and you would like to bid on a part of the job, please let me know.
The house will be built in Watson (north of Denham Springs) in Livingston Parish.
I know a bunch of guys here disagree with the concept of self contracting and say it won't save any money. But, we have decided we are definitely going to build it ourselves, so no point in trying to convince us otherwise.
Thanks for anything and everything!
My wife and I are having plans drawn up right now and have decided that we are going to contract it ourselves.
I would've PM'd the guys I saw that did this already, but I can't find any kind of private/direct message options.
That being said, I've begun making lists of all of the trades I will need for the build, and companies that I will send plans to for bids on the jobs.
If anyone out there, that's done this before, would be willing to share your sheets of who you had bid on your project, and who you decided to go with, I'd really, really appreciate it. If there are subs you'd recommend, that'd be great, and if there are subs you would absolutely stay away from, please by all means let me know.
I've got the HVAC down because of a friend in the industry, but everything else,from dirt work to painting, is up for grabs. If you are a tradesman here and you would like to bid on a part of the job, please let me know.
The house will be built in Watson (north of Denham Springs) in Livingston Parish.
I know a bunch of guys here disagree with the concept of self contracting and say it won't save any money. But, we have decided we are definitely going to build it ourselves, so no point in trying to convince us otherwise.
Thanks for anything and everything!
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Posted on 9/7/19 at 1:44 pm to OneAyedJack
You also need to know when each traded is needed in the build process, like a flow chart
Posted on 9/7/19 at 2:11 pm to wickowick
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You also need to know when each traded is needed in the build process, like a flow chart
Yeah. Thanks!
Crazy thing. I bought 3 books on owner building and none of them have a flow chart/schedule of subs. Weird.
I know someone here has done it before. I'm just hoping they are willing to share the info...
Posted on 9/7/19 at 3:12 pm to OneAyedJack
While I live too far away to help with subs, I will offer a piece of advise. The wife and I were the general contractor on our house.
Check with your lending institution about how many times you can draw on the money they are lending you. For me the number was 6, and an inspection was done by the bank making sure the work was done prior to them releasing any funds to me.
The problem is one time subs and some material suppliers want to be paid before leaving the job site. Returning subs want to be paid at certain intervals in their work. You may have to make some of these payments out of pocket before you make a draw from the bank.
You will be reimbursed for your out of pocket money but it may be 4-6 weeks then you have to do it all over again for other subs.
Check with your lending institution about how many times you can draw on the money they are lending you. For me the number was 6, and an inspection was done by the bank making sure the work was done prior to them releasing any funds to me.
The problem is one time subs and some material suppliers want to be paid before leaving the job site. Returning subs want to be paid at certain intervals in their work. You may have to make some of these payments out of pocket before you make a draw from the bank.
You will be reimbursed for your out of pocket money but it may be 4-6 weeks then you have to do it all over again for other subs.
This post was edited on 9/7/19 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 9/7/19 at 3:25 pm to rodnreel
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While I live too far away to help with subs, I will offer a piece of advise. The wife and I were the general contractor on our house.
Check with your lending institution about how many times you can draw on the money they are lending you. For me the number was 6, and an inspection was done by the bank making sure the work was done prior to them releasing any funds to me.
The problem is one time subs and some material suppliers want to be paid before leaving the job site. Returning subs want to be paid at certain intervals in their work. You may have to make some of these payments out of pocket before you make a draw from the bank.
You will be reimbursed for your out of pocket money but it may be 4-6 weeks then you have to do it all over again for other subs.
Thanks for the response! We planned on this and have cash on hand to pay between draws.
Posted on 9/7/19 at 7:12 pm to OneAyedJack
We just finished subbing out our homes. While I do not have my sheets to share, I can give some references.
Plaquemines Bank was the easiest and most helpful when trying to find financing for construction.
Dave’s electric did my wiring.
Mike Green did my plumbing.
Holmes for materials.
That’s all I can think of off the top of my head while at work.
Dirt work. Compaction tests. Foundation forming and footings. Plumbing. Pour slab. Framing. Roof. Plumbing and wiring. Drywall. Brick and hardy plank. Interior brick and beams. Hvac. Trim. Cabinets. Floors. Nick nack electrical, plumbing, painting and trim. Driveway. Septic tank.
That’s basically how we scheduled things.
Painters came and went whenever they felt like it to paint and caulk.
Plaquemines Bank was the easiest and most helpful when trying to find financing for construction.
Dave’s electric did my wiring.
Mike Green did my plumbing.
Holmes for materials.
That’s all I can think of off the top of my head while at work.
Dirt work. Compaction tests. Foundation forming and footings. Plumbing. Pour slab. Framing. Roof. Plumbing and wiring. Drywall. Brick and hardy plank. Interior brick and beams. Hvac. Trim. Cabinets. Floors. Nick nack electrical, plumbing, painting and trim. Driveway. Septic tank.
That’s basically how we scheduled things.
Painters came and went whenever they felt like it to paint and caulk.
Posted on 9/7/19 at 8:49 pm to OneAyedJack
I have a home schedule. I won’t be able to get it to you till Monday. Email me.
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 7:08 am
Posted on 9/8/19 at 5:37 am to OneAyedJack
I am simply going to advise to to get your subs in order and wish you good luck finding any worth a damn that are not already fully booked with GCs or wont put you on hold to keep the bread and butter happy
this is the issue
this is the issue
Posted on 9/8/19 at 7:01 am to Capital Cajun
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I have a home schedule. I won’t be able to get it to you till Monday. Email me.
Email sent. Thanks!
Posted on 9/8/19 at 7:02 am to Rossberg02
quote:
We just finished subbing out our homes. While I do not have my sheets to share, I can give some references.
Plaquemines Bank was the easiest and most helpful when trying to find financing for construction.
Dave’s electric did my wiring.
Mike Green did my plumbing.
Holmes for materials.
That’s all I can think of off the top of my head while at work.
Dirt work. Compaction tests. Foundation forming and footings. Plumbing. Pour slab. Framing. Roof. Plumbing and wiring. Drywall. Brick and hardy plank. Interior brick and beams. Hvac. Trim. Cabinets. Floors. Nick nack electrical, plumbing, painting and trim. Driveway. Septic tank.
That’s basically how we scheduled things.
Painters came and went whenever they felt like it to paint and caulk.
Thanks!!
Posted on 9/8/19 at 7:04 am to cave canem
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Owner Builder help.
I am simply going to advise to to get your subs in order and wish you good luck finding any worth a damn that are not already fully booked with GCs or wont put you on hold to keep the bread and butter happy
this is the issue
That's exactly what I'm doing right now.
Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:40 pm to OneAyedJack
Make sure you get them to pick up their shite and not make a mess either, might cost you a few bucks but it’s worth not having to do it yourself.
That was the only thing I disliked about subbing my house. Clean up consumed me.
That was the only thing I disliked about subbing my house. Clean up consumed me.
Posted on 9/9/19 at 9:11 am to Rossberg02
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Make sure you get them to pick up their shite and not make a mess either, might cost you a few bucks but it’s worth not having to do it yourself. That was the only thing I disliked about subbing my house. Clean up consumed me.
Thanks! I added a "clean job site" section to my generic contract.
This post was edited on 9/9/19 at 9:13 am
Posted on 9/10/19 at 4:02 pm to OneAyedJack
Anybody?
Someone has to have built a house in the LP, EBR, or ASC, parish areas in the past year or so. Doesn't anyone have a list of subs they used and recommend?
Someone has to have built a house in the LP, EBR, or ASC, parish areas in the past year or so. Doesn't anyone have a list of subs they used and recommend?
Posted on 9/11/19 at 1:40 am to OneAyedJack
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Someone has to have built a house in the LP, EBR, or ASC, parish areas in the past year or so. Doesn't anyone have a list of subs they used and recommend?
My man no GC is going to give you a list of his subs and anyone who used a GC will really not know who they were.
Welcome to the catch 22 of being your own CG and why most choose not to go this route.
I would rather piss in a electric socket than attempt what you are about to, everyone I know that tried to save those sheckles regreted it
Posted on 9/11/19 at 7:43 am to cave canem
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My man no GC is going to give you a list of his subs and anyone who used a GC will really not know who they were.
My man, I didn't ask any General Contractor's to give me their sub list. That's just stupid. I'm no moron. I asked other OWNER BUILDERS (people who acted as their own general contractor that do not make their living as a general contractor) for their lists/recommendations on subs.
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Welcome to the catch 22 of being your own CG and why most choose not to go this route.
Back in the day, everyone built their own houses and GC's didn't exist. The reason why people choose to use GC's today is because it has become the societal norm and they conform out of fear.
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I would rather piss in a electric socket than attempt what you are about to, everyone I know that tried to save those sheckles regreted it
Thanks for the input. On the flipside, I know quite a few people that did it themselves and saved more than 50k in the process because they had complete control of the project. The problem is, I'm not originally from around here. Everyone that I knew that did this would not be able to recommend subs for me as I am now more than 5 hours away from them. Which is why I came here to ask.
Posted on 9/11/19 at 11:14 am to OneAyedJack
I am building now and used:
Central Heating and Air
Letulle's Plumbing
Zydeco Electric
A and R Painting and Sheetrock
Even though you have a friend doing HVAC, get another price, just for peace of mind.
I have used Facebook marketplace for painters, sheetrock, trim, etc.
I have had good success asking the subs that show up to recommended or refer folks they work with.
My biggest plea is DON'T PAY ANYONE UNTIL YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH THE WORK, AND NEVER PAY UPFRONT. As long as you have the money you are in control of the work. Progress payments are okay, just pay less than what's been done, for instance, if 25% of the work is complete, only pay for 15%, this is mostly for the non-permitted subs.
Central Heating and Air
Letulle's Plumbing
Zydeco Electric
A and R Painting and Sheetrock
Even though you have a friend doing HVAC, get another price, just for peace of mind.
I have used Facebook marketplace for painters, sheetrock, trim, etc.
I have had good success asking the subs that show up to recommended or refer folks they work with.
My biggest plea is DON'T PAY ANYONE UNTIL YOU ARE SATISFIED WITH THE WORK, AND NEVER PAY UPFRONT. As long as you have the money you are in control of the work. Progress payments are okay, just pay less than what's been done, for instance, if 25% of the work is complete, only pay for 15%, this is mostly for the non-permitted subs.
Posted on 9/11/19 at 6:19 pm to OneAyedJack
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OneAyedJack
Shoot me an email and I’ll send you the info for the people I used in North Walker.
Let me know what all you’re looking for/interested in and I’ll share what i have. Pricing/subs/vendors/etc.
Username @ Gmail
Posted on 9/11/19 at 6:55 pm to LSUtigerME
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Shoot me an email
Email sent! Thanks!
Posted on 9/11/19 at 6:57 pm to snake2985
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snake2985
Thank you for your response!
I will take your advice on payment and get multiple bids on the AC work.
I am also looking at facebook marketplace for painters, drywall and trimwork. Just having trouble deciphering who is legit and who is not.
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