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New home- question about removing trees and sodding the yard

Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:55 am
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88662 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:55 am
We bought a home and will be closing next month. I don't have any real/on site pictures yet so all these pictures below were just taken straight from Zillow. Over the years I've grown to love getting out in the lawn and cutting grass. This home doesn't have any yard which is a bit of a bummer to me. One of the big reasons is that it's in kind of a woody area and there are pine needles EVERYWHERE, in addition to the front being in a good bit of shade. In a year or so I have a feeling I'm going to get the itch and want a yard again so would like some advice.

-BALLPARK estimate, what do you think it'd run me to get all of these offending pine trees removed? There's 4 inside the fenced in area (on the right of first pic), but plenty more just outside of it. Not sure if I can get by with just removing those 4 and just doing a good job at raking or if I'd need to take more out. Or hell, the opposite too...maybe only remove half of them and be diligent about raking? You can see in the first pic that the whole right side of the yard is all pine straw. The left side has some green and doesn't look to be affected as much.
-I've only ever had Bermuda before in my life. Assuming there will still be a good bit of shade I'm guessing I'd need to go with a Zoysia or St. Augustine when putting in sod? This is zone 8A.
-Since idk if this yard has ever really had much grass, would we need to do some kind of soil preparation first rather than just laying sod? I'd hate to put down a bunch of sod but then have all the soil underneath just be total shite.
-Is there anything else you pros can think of I may not be considering? If I were to really want to go this route, aside from removing a few trees and laying sod is there anything else of importance I'm not realizing?










Posted by Goldensammy
Cypress, TX
Member since Jun 2016
884 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:09 am to
No clue on cost. Just here to say that mowing that slopped yard will be a major PITA.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88662 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:15 am to
yeah for sure, I thought about that. Over the years reading on this board and other forums I've gotten my current yard in good shape and I just love taking care of it and that satisifed feeling of looking at it after a job well done. I just can't imagine not having any yard again (the new house doens't have a back yard either).

Posted by Tiger Dan 16
Central City, New Orleans
Member since Jul 2024
112 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:19 am to
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St. Augustine when putting in sod?


St Augustine needs a lot of sun as well. People will tell you it doesn't require full sun, but if you want a thick, established, St Aug lawn that can essentially choke out weeds by itself. It needs full sun and to be watered regularly.

Removal of trees are going for around $1k in my area. But we likely have more cheap labor than you do in Georgia.....
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43388 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 9:54 am to
quote:

No clue on cost. Just here to say that mowing that slopped yard will be a major PITA.
that, plus that treed landscape is gorgeous and is providing you with shade in the summer and habitat for wildlife.

i would tell you that you are out of your damn mind if you asked me whether thats a good idea or not
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88662 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:16 am to
quote:

i would tell you that you are out of your damn mind if you asked me whether thats a good idea or not


In the OP I was going to ask what the board thinks or would do, but figured that's impossible to answer since it's all based on personal opinion. Yours is noted though

And hey once we get moved in and settled, I may end up growing to love not having to cut grass anymore. Who knows.
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
854 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:20 am to
I'm guessing that you are in Hoover AL and trees falling on the house isn't a big concern. Even with that, I'd remove all trees that drop needles on your roof. Shingles will last longer. Plant dogwoods where pines are removed. Then shift your interest from grass to shade-tolerant ground cover: monkey grass, liriope, ivy, etc.

The soil may be fine unless it's just rocky red clay. The rocks will make improvement very difficult. Check to see if any landscaper/nursery has a stockpile of real natural topsoil. Start building areas for planting 3" a year. Much more than that might stress the shallow pine roots.

Enjoying a lovely lawn and finding the work rewarding is an age-related thing. Your body will change your mind for you.
Posted by MorbidTheClown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
71609 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 10:43 am to
pine trees suck
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
32289 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 12:02 pm to
Yea, I’d avoid trying to establish a lawn on a sloped piece of property. Seems like a great way to waste a bunch of money.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
7217 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 3:42 pm to
If this is your backyard, what about building a massive deck out there? Probably a huge cost, but I would find it a massive pain in the arse to put anything out there worth growing unless it's purely wildflower. Maintaining a sloped lawn is going to suck.

Depending on where you are, trees can go for about $1k each.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18907 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 5:42 pm to
10k
Posted by agilitydawg
Member since Aug 2022
161 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:47 pm to
Why not a butterfly or hummingbird garden? From where you are at currently to a nice patch of grass would take a lot of money and determination.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
115680 posts
Posted on 8/1/24 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

-I've only ever had Bermuda before in my life. Assuming there will still be a good bit of shade I'm guessing I'd need to go with a Zoysia or St. Augustine when putting in sod?


I bought a heavily wooded lot and did not want to cut trees. I like the forest. I put in centipede in the spaces that got some sun. It worked great.
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