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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:53 pm to Tigerlaff
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:53 pm to Tigerlaff
I have 2 new lemon trees that I just potted. A Meyer lemon and a Lisbon. The Meyer has a ton of flowers and the Lisbon is starting to bud.
When do these trees set fruit? I thought they were winter fruiting.
Once the fruit is formed, how long until ripe?
Mostly curious, as I plan on plucking almost every one off the trees this year to push root growth over fruit development.
When do these trees set fruit? I thought they were winter fruiting.
Once the fruit is formed, how long until ripe?
Mostly curious, as I plan on plucking almost every one off the trees this year to push root growth over fruit development.
Posted on 3/17/25 at 10:13 pm to mchias1
Unlike oranges and mandarins, lemons (and limes) will flower and set fruit year round if conditions are warm enough. My key lime that winters indoors basically flowers and fruits all year to some degree. My Meyer lemon was flowering this past December because it was so warm.
Takes about 8-9 months to ripen depending on variety and weather conditions. In our climate they typically are winter fruiting, meaning you harvest in winter. They flower in the spring.
Also, show us pics.
Takes about 8-9 months to ripen depending on variety and weather conditions. In our climate they typically are winter fruiting, meaning you harvest in winter. They flower in the spring.
Also, show us pics.
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:06 pm to Tigerlaff
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you need a supplemental heat source.
everything you said is exactly my experience and especially the above.
Old wives tale is that covering spots you 10degress warmer. Monitoring with a thermometer on one of my citrus with a tarp to the ground and no extra heat tells me that it actually only spots you about 3degrees...almost pointless. You have to have a heat bulb or something.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 5:04 am to Turnblad85
Yep. A 5 gallon bucket of warm water under the cover next to the tree is infinitely better than covering alone.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 6:33 am to Neauxla
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I used pipe warmers and halogen flood lights this year
Are pipe warmers the same thing as heat tape?
I had a few more things arrive yesterday. I should have a passion fruit arriving today and then a dwarf banana early next week. I will try to get pics this weekend.
I am pretty fortunate that I am near an electrical outlet and I have easy access to a shed for extra protection. Right now, everything is in containers, and I plan to leave it that way.
I have a key lime I bought last year and want to add a lime. Any lime suggestions?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:11 am to Tigerlaff
I'll put pics up later this evening.
When you get a good crop of citrus that you can keep, what do you do with the extras?
When I get to the point of harvesting the lemons hopefully we have more than we can eat before they go bad.
When you get a good crop of citrus that you can keep, what do you do with the extras?
When I get to the point of harvesting the lemons hopefully we have more than we can eat before they go bad.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:59 am to Tigerlaff
Do the guavas (or any other fruit for that matter) tolerate a good amount of shade? I have a north facing balcony and a north facing patio that I’ve been looking to put some container plants on. I know a lot of these tropical fruit bearing plants are understory plants in their natural environment. The balcony gets a couple hours of morning sunlight, but is otherwise pretty shaded. The patio can get close to 6 hours the further away from the house I get.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 11:02 am
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:07 am to TimeOutdoors
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I should have a passion fruit arriving today.
I keep toying around with passionfruit. I don't really like the common purple edulis varieties like purple possum or Frederick because I find them too sour. The sweet tropical cultivars are harder to grow here and not winter hardy. The one I'm considering is Parama Red or Gold, which are edulis varieties that allegedly have better sweetness.
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dwarf banana early next week
Let me know what cultivar. I may be able to help with that. Very big difference between dwarf namwah (recommended) and dwarf Cavendish (not recommended) for instance. The bananas are a challenge to fruit in containers. If it is fruit you want an not just great foliage, I'd recommend the Banana Fuel fertilizer on Amazon.
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I have a key lime I bought last year and want to add a lime. Any lime suggestions?
Key lime is the only lime I recommend. Persian limes are readily available at any grocery store if you need lots of juice and the flavor on key lime is considerably better. The new hotness on the citrus market is Kaffir/Makrut lime, which they have recently re-branded as "Keiffer" lime because people are sensitive pussies and don't want to utter a Muslim slur word. These stupid kaffir limes are everywhere this year and I cannot understand why anyone is buying them. The fruit is not even eaten, you use the skin/rind for zest and cook with the leaves. Unless you are trying to make some very specific authentic Thai dishes with lime leaves, this tree has basically no purpose for you. If you must have a lime in addition to your key lime, look at Palestinian sweet lime. Has lime flavor but also sweetness.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:09 am to mchias1
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When you get a good crop of citrus that you can keep, what do you do with the extras?
Every single Meiwa kumquat gets eaten. They are amazing. Most of the Cara cara navel oranges get eaten or juiced. Will give a few away. I get hundreds of Meyer lemons so I make limoncello, freeze some juice, make sazeracs, and give the vast majority away to neighbors. No one around me has lemons, just satsumas.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:15 am to audioguy
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Do the guavas (or any other fruit for that matter) tolerate a good amount of shade? I have a north facing balcony and a north facing patio that I’ve been looking to put some container plants on. I know a lot of these tropical fruit bearing plants are understory plants in their natural environment. The balcony gets a couple hours of morning sunlight, but is otherwise pretty shaded. The patio can get close to 6 hours the further away from the house I get.
Loquat will tolerate nearly full shade. Guavas are tough as nails and will grow and even fruit shyly in the shade, but the quality is not good. They don't get sweet. 6 hours of Louisiana sun is equivalent to about 10 hours of normal American sun. Put all that tropical stuff out there in the full sun and give them plenty of water. When temperature is over 90F, all fruit trees are better in the shade. I try to get mine about 4 hours of morning light on the hottest summer days and shade the rest of the day. The intense afternoon sun at 97F is more stressful than beneficial to tropical fruit trees. But if I had to choose between your balcony and the patio, it's the patio hands down. All tropical fruits will develop more sugars with more light, so even your shade grown loquat will not be as good as one in the sun.
Almost anything will do pretty well in mixed sun/shade throughout the day. Even citrus do great under oak trees in dappled light.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 11:18 am
Posted on 3/18/25 at 11:40 am to Tigerlaff
Thanks for the info. I think I’m going to try a nagami kumquat just behind the patio. I’m debating putting that in ground since it should be fairly cold hardy after a few years. I definitely want to try a guava and I’m intrigued by the Barbados cherry. My wife loves sour fruit, so that seems like a good fit.
I think I’m learning that citrus doesn’t love full sun here. I have 3 trees on south wall of the house and they were all doing significantly worse than a couple trees on the north side of the house that still gets a decent amount of sun.
Any idea how long Feijoa takes to fruit? I have 2 shrubs on the same south wall that are about 2-3 years in ground. Hoping for fruit soon.
I think I’m learning that citrus doesn’t love full sun here. I have 3 trees on south wall of the house and they were all doing significantly worse than a couple trees on the north side of the house that still gets a decent amount of sun.
Any idea how long Feijoa takes to fruit? I have 2 shrubs on the same south wall that are about 2-3 years in ground. Hoping for fruit soon.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 12:40 pm to Tigerlaff
quote:Not blueberries. I had some dwarfs that kept dying under my lemon tree drip line. They thrive in full sun.
Almost anything will do pretty well in mixed sun/shade throughout the day. Even citrus do great under oak trees in dappled light.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:43 pm to audioguy
quote:
Thanks for the info. I think I’m going to try a nagami kumquat just behind the patio. I’m debating putting that in ground since it should be fairly cold hardy after a few years. I definitely want to try a guava and I’m intrigued by the Barbados cherry. My wife loves sour fruit, so that seems like a good fit.
I think I’m learning that citrus doesn’t love full sun here. I have 3 trees on south wall of the house and they were all doing significantly worse than a couple trees on the north side of the house that still gets a decent amount of sun.
Any idea how long Feijoa takes to fruit? I have 2 shrubs on the same south wall that are about 2-3 years in ground. Hoping for fruit soon.
Nagami is a very very vigorous grower and the most cold hardy citrus (that you actually want to eat). Take a look at Meiwa though. I've grown both. The meiwa is not as vigorous or as cold hardy, but the taste is 5X better than Nagami. All kumquats are prone to zinc deficiency so keep an eye on leaf color.
Guava and Barbados cherry are easy. Just protect from the cold, large pot, and plenty of sun. People's heads spin when you show up somewhere with ripe ruby supreme.
Is your feijoa flowering and not setting fruit or not flowering at all?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 2:49 pm to Tigerlaff
I have a mature Meiwa already and the wife doesn’t like them as much as Nagami. I thought the freeze killed it, but it’s leafing back out. She’s really into the sour stuff.
The feijoa hasn’t flowered yet. I was hoping this would be the year.
The feijoa hasn’t flowered yet. I was hoping this would be the year.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 3:02 pm to audioguy
Wow. You were not kidding about her predilection for tart fruit. You should really do a barbados cherry. That's such an easy one if you like a tangy fruit.
Also what were your low temps this winter that the meiwa survived? That's the kind of real data we need in this thread.
Let me get back to you on the feijoa. My in-laws have a huge mature tree that fruits every year. Do you know if yours is a named variety? The vast majority are not self fertile. But that wouldn't stop flowering.
Also what were your low temps this winter that the meiwa survived? That's the kind of real data we need in this thread.
Let me get back to you on the feijoa. My in-laws have a huge mature tree that fruits every year. Do you know if yours is a named variety? The vast majority are not self fertile. But that wouldn't stop flowering.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 3/18/25 at 3:51 pm to Tigerlaff
I’m in Ascension Parish. Though I don’t have a thermometer in the yard to know the exact low temp of my microclimate, I think 9 degrees is a safe bet. The tree has a north exposure, so wasn’t protected at all. I do have it mulched with leaves underneath. It completely defoliated, but it’s starting to push out green again.
I can’t remember if the feijoas are named. I have 2 about 10-15ft apart. Pretty sure I got them from Almost Eden nursery, but I don’t see them on the site anymore. I’ll dig and see if I have any records or tags.
I can’t remember if the feijoas are named. I have 2 about 10-15ft apart. Pretty sure I got them from Almost Eden nursery, but I don’t see them on the site anymore. I’ll dig and see if I have any records or tags.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 3:56 pm to audioguy
That's really good info. Meiwa is usually listed for 28F. That's also a mature tree you have. No way my 2nd year tree would survive that.
If it's Almost Eden I can almost guarantee you that it's a self fertile variety (probably Coolidge). Even the self fertile ones get much better fruit set with more than 1 tree. I'll get back to you about fruiting maturity.
If it's Almost Eden I can almost guarantee you that it's a self fertile variety (probably Coolidge). Even the self fertile ones get much better fruit set with more than 1 tree. I'll get back to you about fruiting maturity.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 3:57 pm to audioguy
I wonder if it would be cool to have a similar thread for Louisiana temperate fruit gardening? I basically have a young food forest in progress and am learning as I go.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 4:07 pm to Tigerlaff
The first 2 images are the lemon trees. I can remember which is the Lisbon or Meyer. The big stick is an Anna apple tree.
This post was edited on 3/18/25 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 3/18/25 at 4:14 pm to Tigerlaff
I’m convinced the snowfall helped with the low temps. Though the tree has definitely survived the teens in the past couple of years with no help.


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