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Posted on 8/1/25 at 6:43 pm to SuperSaint
In 10b you can get away with mamey, coconuts, jackfruit, all kinds of crazy stuff.
True tropicals like mangosteen, durian, breadfruit still no-go unless you're really dedicated.
True tropicals like mangosteen, durian, breadfruit still no-go unless you're really dedicated.
This post was edited on 8/1/25 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 8/2/25 at 6:56 am to Neauxla
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Neauxla
Wait, I thought you got a Pickering?
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:01 am to Tigerlaff
lol! I didn’t realize this was the one I ordered off eBay bc I never got tracking. The Pickering hasn’t arrived
That was my 7 gal for $235 shipped overnight from eBay seller
That was my 7 gal for $235 shipped overnight from eBay seller
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 9:12 am
Posted on 8/2/25 at 2:20 pm to Neauxla
I have seen CFL green thumb before. Very good selection for shipping so they can command relatively high prices. Tons of misleading product descriptions. Glad yours arrived OK.
Anyone checking them out needs to independently research the plant.
Anyone checking them out needs to independently research the plant.
Posted on 8/2/25 at 6:13 pm to Tigerlaff
Well hopefully that’s really an m-4
Posted on 8/2/25 at 8:57 pm to Neauxla
Oh it surely is. But if you look at the description it says "dwarf tree ready to fruit."
M-4 is not a dwarf and is actually a moderately vigorous grower. And a tree that small should not be allowed to carry fruit for at least 1 year and probably longer. It will try to fruit and you should let them set and then remove the pea-sized fruit. If you remove the flowers it will just try to flower again.
M-4 is a fantastic mango. I love the coconut ones. If you ever want legit information about a variety, go to the Tropical Acres website. All this info comes from Alex Salazar who, along with like 2 other people, knows more about mangos than anyone in America.
Tropical Acres M-4
There is also a radical school of thought that all mangos can be dwarfed by judicious container growing and root pruning. Orlando Gardener on YouTube for example says that he has seen Valencia Pride growing and fruiting well in a 25 gallon. If you watched the YouTube video I posted in this thread about Theme Linh in Beaumont, she has enormous trees fruiting in 15gal pots.
Personally, I think there is room to explore here. But I want my first one to be a tried and true container tree like Pickering, Julie, or Dwarf Hawaiian. I am really excited to see what you do with the M-4 over the next couple of years. You are developing the kind of first hand knowledge that we need.
I would look into both air pruning pots like Root Builder and MicroKote pot coatings. I use microkote and it absolutely works. Something with a vigorous root system will do better if you can encourage it not to circle the pot.
M-4 is not a dwarf and is actually a moderately vigorous grower. And a tree that small should not be allowed to carry fruit for at least 1 year and probably longer. It will try to fruit and you should let them set and then remove the pea-sized fruit. If you remove the flowers it will just try to flower again.
M-4 is a fantastic mango. I love the coconut ones. If you ever want legit information about a variety, go to the Tropical Acres website. All this info comes from Alex Salazar who, along with like 2 other people, knows more about mangos than anyone in America.
Tropical Acres M-4
There is also a radical school of thought that all mangos can be dwarfed by judicious container growing and root pruning. Orlando Gardener on YouTube for example says that he has seen Valencia Pride growing and fruiting well in a 25 gallon. If you watched the YouTube video I posted in this thread about Theme Linh in Beaumont, she has enormous trees fruiting in 15gal pots.
Personally, I think there is room to explore here. But I want my first one to be a tried and true container tree like Pickering, Julie, or Dwarf Hawaiian. I am really excited to see what you do with the M-4 over the next couple of years. You are developing the kind of first hand knowledge that we need.
I would look into both air pruning pots like Root Builder and MicroKote pot coatings. I use microkote and it absolutely works. Something with a vigorous root system will do better if you can encourage it not to circle the pot.
This post was edited on 8/2/25 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 8/4/25 at 12:08 pm to Tigerlaff
Air pruning pots seems very interesting but I want to make my pots look pretty too. 
When I was googling later producing mangos and came across the m-4 I had read that though not a true dwarf, it can be a good container tree. We shall see!
I wasn’t planning on letting anything fruit this year and probably not next year either. I already plucked a ton of baby mango from my Nam doc earlier in the summer.
I just got my Pickering in this morning. Glad it was only $100 or I would be upset on value. It’s healthy but small. If it was the same price as the m-4 but this size I’d be very disappointed. Thought it looks much better than the other Pickerings I got off Etsy a month ago.
When I was googling later producing mangos and came across the m-4 I had read that though not a true dwarf, it can be a good container tree. We shall see!
I wasn’t planning on letting anything fruit this year and probably not next year either. I already plucked a ton of baby mango from my Nam doc earlier in the summer.
I just got my Pickering in this morning. Glad it was only $100 or I would be upset on value. It’s healthy but small. If it was the same price as the m-4 but this size I’d be very disappointed. Thought it looks much better than the other Pickerings I got off Etsy a month ago.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:13 pm to Neauxla
You are all set man. Gonna be fun to see what we can pull off. South LA mango cartel, baby.
Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:08 am to Tigerlaff
First batch of scotch bonnet mango hot sauce finished its 2 week ferment. Tastes great.
This post was edited on 8/13/25 at 7:37 am
Posted on 8/7/25 at 12:59 pm to Tigerlaff
Even if I don't care for the fruit I think I'll keep growing papayas. The flowers have the whole patio smelling great.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:58 pm to Loup
Look into the Hawaiian cultivars. Apparently they are a lot sweeter and without that funkiness. Looks good!
Posted on 8/10/25 at 4:37 pm to Tigerlaff
PSA: do not buy from the Etsy seller GuavaKing. He is one of the only vendors selling what he purports to be "Mexican Cream" guava. The tree I bought earlier this year fruited and this is not Mexican Cream.
Mexican cream is a very sweet white-fleshed fruit and this is a very light pink fruit with zero sweetness. Terrible guava, in fact. These are not the right shape/size for Mexican cream either, but I've seen a lot of variation in that on my other trees.
When I approached the seller about this and sent photos of the fruit and tree, he had the temerity to claim that this is in fact the right cultivar, but that it "got cross pollinated by a nearby red-fleshed guava." A little common sense and basic botany lesson is that cross pollination does not change the fruit of either parent plant. It is only the seeds within those cross pollinated fruits that contain the mixed genetics. So the parent fruits alway stay true to type, but if you plant the seeds you will get a new unique cultivar that could have different color/flavor/etc. If cross pollination could do what he claims, then you would never be able to grow any particular desired cultivar because the fruits would always be getting invaded and changed by foreign pollen. Again, basic stuff here.
He argued with me about this until it became clear that I wasn't an idiot and he has at least offered a refund with shipping at my expense. Anyway, don't buy from this dude. He's either scamming people intentionally or has no idea what he is selling. Lots of cautionary tales about him out there and I foolishly rolled the dice.
Already ordered another Mexican cream from Steve at Gala Plants on Etsy. Pricey seller but his stuff has always been spot on and his reputation is sterling. 5th purchase from him and only great things to say.
Lot of cool updates coming soon in this thread. Recently added some new items to the collection with one of them being a major find. Will post about them when they all recover from the repotting process and my labeled signs arrive.
Mexican cream is a very sweet white-fleshed fruit and this is a very light pink fruit with zero sweetness. Terrible guava, in fact. These are not the right shape/size for Mexican cream either, but I've seen a lot of variation in that on my other trees.
When I approached the seller about this and sent photos of the fruit and tree, he had the temerity to claim that this is in fact the right cultivar, but that it "got cross pollinated by a nearby red-fleshed guava." A little common sense and basic botany lesson is that cross pollination does not change the fruit of either parent plant. It is only the seeds within those cross pollinated fruits that contain the mixed genetics. So the parent fruits alway stay true to type, but if you plant the seeds you will get a new unique cultivar that could have different color/flavor/etc. If cross pollination could do what he claims, then you would never be able to grow any particular desired cultivar because the fruits would always be getting invaded and changed by foreign pollen. Again, basic stuff here.
He argued with me about this until it became clear that I wasn't an idiot and he has at least offered a refund with shipping at my expense. Anyway, don't buy from this dude. He's either scamming people intentionally or has no idea what he is selling. Lots of cautionary tales about him out there and I foolishly rolled the dice.
Already ordered another Mexican cream from Steve at Gala Plants on Etsy. Pricey seller but his stuff has always been spot on and his reputation is sterling. 5th purchase from him and only great things to say.
Lot of cool updates coming soon in this thread. Recently added some new items to the collection with one of them being a major find. Will post about them when they all recover from the repotting process and my labeled signs arrive.
Posted on 8/13/25 at 2:42 pm to Tigerlaff
Not a fruit post, but I found this interesting nonetheless. I've been searching for the native hardy hibiscus hybrid (Hibiscus moscheutos) that most closely resembles tropical hibiscus (Hibiscus rosa-sinensis).
After trying many different cultivars I'm convinced that I've found it. And it's not one of the new fangled hybrids. It's the old Lord Baltimore variety. It makes huge flowers, is hardy to zone 5, and has the deeply lobed petals like its tropical cousin. I'm going to propagate it next year and use it as accent color in my beds.
After trying many different cultivars I'm convinced that I've found it. And it's not one of the new fangled hybrids. It's the old Lord Baltimore variety. It makes huge flowers, is hardy to zone 5, and has the deeply lobed petals like its tropical cousin. I'm going to propagate it next year and use it as accent color in my beds.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 11:53 am to Tigerlaff
Looky here. My Meyer lemon has started to bloom again. I am going to do the sex with it when they open up. I have a small 3/8" soft brush.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 2:42 pm to Tigerlaff
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seller GuavaKing
Well known and well documented scammer. Anything purchased from him is likely not the genuine article.
He’s notorious for selling what’s labeled as rare Pakistani mango trees such as Chaunsa or Anwar Ratol. He’s swindled people out of tens of thousands of dollars easily.
He used to sell on E-Bay and got removed. His modus operandi is to sell rare fruit trees and with mangoes typically provides the buyer with small 1-3 gallon relabeled Zill trees at a 300-400% markup. Most of which won’t produce fruit for 2-3 years. By that time the buyer who now knows they’ve been duped is offered no protection.
He’s been doxxed on a number of rare fruit forums in recent years. I’m sorry you had to deal with that.
This post was edited on 8/14/25 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 8/14/25 at 3:33 pm to wiltznucs
Wiltz,
Yeah, I had seen warnings before. I had also seen some praise and indications that he had cleaned up his act. I knew what I was getting into when I sent the money. I'm just glad I'm getting a refund.
I knew for 100% certain that I had been scammed when he started talking about cross pollination changing the color of a parent tree's fruit. I bet that bullshite line works 90% of the time.
Meanwhile, Steve from Gala Plants in Carlsbad refunded my money without asking when he realized he didn't have the cultivar in stock and did not want to ship me an immature airlayer. Will follow up in October when they are more developed.
I picked the last of the scam guavas today and it was better than the first, but a complete joke compared to my ruby supreme.
Yeah, I had seen warnings before. I had also seen some praise and indications that he had cleaned up his act. I knew what I was getting into when I sent the money. I'm just glad I'm getting a refund.
I knew for 100% certain that I had been scammed when he started talking about cross pollination changing the color of a parent tree's fruit. I bet that bullshite line works 90% of the time.
Meanwhile, Steve from Gala Plants in Carlsbad refunded my money without asking when he realized he didn't have the cultivar in stock and did not want to ship me an immature airlayer. Will follow up in October when they are more developed.
I picked the last of the scam guavas today and it was better than the first, but a complete joke compared to my ruby supreme.
Posted on 8/14/25 at 5:20 pm to Tigerlaff
Panama red passion fruit finally blooming.
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:50 am to Tigerlaff
I just noticed that my guava has flower buds on it. Should I be pulling these off? Tree is about 5.5 ft tall and was potted earlier this year.
Posted on 8/17/25 at 9:31 am to Loup
Nope. 5.5ft is plenty big enough. Let it fruit. The bees love the flowers, which smell like perfume. What variety of guava is it?
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