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Locating a leak. Using 17,500 gallons a month.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:30 pm
Got the bill and it was $60 with high gallon usage. Went out to water meter. Saw the triangle spinning. turned the main valve off to the house. No movement in 2 hours. Tells me the leak at the house.
The toilet flapper doesn't seal right sometimes I think on two toilets and will need to be replaced. I just fixed a leaky tub by replacing cartridge.
I still do not think that accounts for 12,000 gallons a month delta from ordinary usage.
I have not been seeing pooling water anywhere around the house. Leak would have occurred in last 60 days.
I've called a plumber to get on the list. Any ideas what and where this could be located? Seems shot in the dark.
The toilet flapper doesn't seal right sometimes I think on two toilets and will need to be replaced. I just fixed a leaky tub by replacing cartridge.
I still do not think that accounts for 12,000 gallons a month delta from ordinary usage.
I have not been seeing pooling water anywhere around the house. Leak would have occurred in last 60 days.
I've called a plumber to get on the list. Any ideas what and where this could be located? Seems shot in the dark.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:35 pm to DiamondDog
Do your lines run underground or in the attic? Pretty sure you would see 400 gallons a day if you were losing that much.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:36 pm to DiamondDog
A buddy at work had a leak where his main waterline connected to the house. He said the plumber suggested it was a pretty common spot. I believe there was some sort of fitting that bridges the gap from the street into the house on many houses that is the issue.
I guess it depends on where your valve is in relation to the meter. My current house has it exposed up the side of the house. Growing up I know our main valve cutoff was buried in the yard and that would still allow for the fitting at the house entrance to be an issue.
Just passing along those thoughts. Seems like if it is inside the house it would almost have to be the toilets.
I guess it depends on where your valve is in relation to the meter. My current house has it exposed up the side of the house. Growing up I know our main valve cutoff was buried in the yard and that would still allow for the fitting at the house entrance to be an issue.
Just passing along those thoughts. Seems like if it is inside the house it would almost have to be the toilets.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:53 pm to RaginCajunz
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17,500 gallons a month
That seems like a lot. That is almost the size of my swimming pool.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 12:57 pm to DiamondDog
It will be by your water main. No way you don’t see that amount of water if it’s not
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:04 pm to trident
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It will be by your water main. No way you don’t see that amount of water if it’s not
Lines are underground. I went in the attic and of course nothing is damp around the hot water heaters. I cut off all the toilets to see if I could isolate the problem to the toilets. None of then constantly run though.
By the time I cut the water on, walked around and did an inspection, the water meter said it dumped 20 gallons almost.
There are no visible signs of dampness on the ground around the house. It has to be something buried deep but at that rate im thinking it would eventually be evident.
There is some water where the apple slugs pile up near the centurylink box near the ditch...still, the meter isnt running when main control is at the house is off.
I'm not sure.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:09 pm to DiamondDog
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the meter isnt running when main control is at the house is off.
then you have eliminated the yard as an issue and the leak is in the house itself.
shut off valves to the toilets and see if the meter runs, only place it can go and not be seen is through the toilet.
and a flapper costs $10 at home depot, you dont need to replace the toilet for that
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:13 pm to keakar
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shut off valves to the toilets and see if the meter runs, only place it can go and not be seen is through the toilet.
and a flapper costs $10 at home depot, you dont need to replace the toilet for that
You think a toilet dumps 12,000 a month through a flapper leak?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:15 pm to DiamondDog
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You think a toilet dumps 12,000 a month through a flapper leak?
it sure as hell isnt turning into unicorns and flying away
name a single place other then a toilet that can leak water and it does straight out the drain line leaving no evidence of a leak behind?
it only takes a few seconds to shut the valve to them off and see
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:17 pm to keakar
All toilets are shut off. 10 gallons seems to be the delta. The meter triangle is still moving. That mean anything?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:17 pm to DiamondDog
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You think a toilet dumps 12,000 a month through a flapper leak?
It would constantly be running (400 gal/day). But you could shut off the valves to the toilet and eliminate that issue. If the meter still spins it isn't the toilet.
Do you have any dirty water?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:18 pm to DiamondDog
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All toilets are shut off. 10 gallons seems to be the delta. The meter triangle is still moving. That mean anything?
It's not the toilets.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:22 pm to Pintail
What I am thinking. I'm keeping them shut off to make sure it still tracks but right now the triangle moves a little bit every so often, seems to mean water still flowing through the meter somewhere.
Or does it normally spin whether water not being offloaded but valve on?
No dirty water.
Or does it normally spin whether water not being offloaded but valve on?
No dirty water.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:33 pm to DiamondDog
There is greener looking grass heading straight from the meter lines diagonal toward the house but there is no soft ground.
Leak indicator still moving in quarter turns. Just going to have to get a plumber.
Leak indicator still moving in quarter turns. Just going to have to get a plumber.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:44 pm to DiamondDog
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There is greener looking grass heading straight from the meter lines diagonal toward the house but there is no soft ground.
Good observation and possibly where the leak is, but I still think that much water would be pretty sloppy. Do you have a shutoff at the house downstream of the meter?
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:49 pm to Pintail
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Do you have a shutoff at the house downstream of the meter?
All I am aware of if the main shutoff valve to the house.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:50 pm to DiamondDog
I'd get a post hole digger and dig down a bit near the meter box on the house side. If you go down a bit and no water, move to the spot with the greener grass.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 1:53 pm to DiamondDog
Just as a reference point for your 17,500 gallons/month:
I have a pool and had a leaky toilet last July, and used 9,300 gallons of water. That's with refilling pool once a week.
17,500 is significant. I agree with another poster, I think it's your main.
I have a pool and had a leaky toilet last July, and used 9,300 gallons of water. That's with refilling pool once a week.
17,500 is significant. I agree with another poster, I think it's your main.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 2:19 pm to keakar
Backyard faucet? I had a pipe burst and didn't know until my neighbor told me about all the water in his yard.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 2:27 pm to DiamondDog
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There is greener looking grass heading straight from the meter lines diagonal toward the house but there is no soft ground.
Another way to try and isolate it is if you have a cut off *at* your house, cut that and see if the triangle is still moving.
Similar thing happened to me and the city rejected my claim. But after several inspectors came out, did they finally relent and see that the water main was itself busted
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