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Let's talk whole home dehumidifiers

Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:32 pm
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45602 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:32 pm
I'm handy enough to install one of these things but where would I drain it? I am not the best plumber, admittedly, but I'm pretty handy with most other things so I'm not sure if I can simply drain it into the vent pipe or if I would need to install a drain that simply leads outside the roof underneath soffit, dripping onto the ground. That sounds like a bad idea and ideally I could cut the vent pipe, add a little T shaped pvc connection to drain it into that instead. What can this board tell me?
Posted by PenguinPubes
Frozen Tundra
Member since Jan 2018
11477 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 5:08 pm to
I’ve been looking into getting one for my house, can’t seem to pull the trigger tho.

Anybody else have one installed notice a difference in AC run time, electric bill etc?
Posted by baseballmind1212
Missouri City
Member since Feb 2011
3347 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:15 pm to
Easiest thing would be to tie into a roof vent on its way up.

If you do this, you should plan to have a pan and over flow drain under it, if possible.

Other retro fit options include tying into the existing ahu primary drain if location allows.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
31555 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 6:38 pm to
I feel like it’s really increases my electric bill. Had 1 in basement and 1 in main floor last year and had record high bills. Going to try just basement this year and see if I notice anything in usage.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
6585 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:14 pm to
Mine is tied into my ac drain.
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
6585 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:17 pm to
I have had one for about 5 years now but to be fair I had it installed at the same time I upgraded my 5 ton unit to a higher efficiency multi stage system so my bill decreased significantly.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
58587 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:40 pm to
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I feel like it’s really increases my electric bill.


I could see it having that effect….it is just a coil that chills the air so the moisture falls out followed by a heater to heat the air back to room temperature. They are typically somewhat noisy, too.
Posted by Maillard
BTR
Member since Jul 2021
269 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 9:22 am to
I put an ultra air 98h in my attic. It drained to my AC drain. I cut in a new return and ran it to the unit. It pushed the conditioned air into the plenum on the other side of my evaporator coil. Those units pull less than 15 amps. It did bring my humidity in my house down to 50%. You have to install a humidistat with these units to control the humidity level to your comfort level. Since I put new units in when I remodeled it is just sitting in my attic. The new units keep my house at 50 to 55% relative humidity.
Posted by Poobear13
Member since Feb 2024
18 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 9:37 am to
Mine sits on top of my air handler. It’s plugged into a 110 outlet, and the drain is tied Into the ac drain. Easy install no matter your skill level.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45602 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 11:15 am to
Does it have to be run at the same time as the AC or can I run it independently?
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5610 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Does it have to be run at the same time as the AC or can I run it independently?

Though it can be configured in different ways, it is usually installed to run independent of the AC. It has its own return plenum and uses the HVAC supply ducts, and has a separate humidistat.

This is one of the better short videos of installing a whole house dehumidifier in this way - install in New Orleans Ask this Old House : How to Install a Whole House Dehumidifer. The condensate drain on this one is plumbed outside but it can the plumbed to drain to a vent stack.
This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 11:17 am
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
20115 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 12:41 pm to
quote:

I could see it having that effect….it is just a coil that chills the air so the moisture falls out followed by a heater to heat the air back to room temperature. They are typically somewhat noisy, too.


I think the heat is because you just pulled latent heat out of the air and you are running an electric motor that creates heat. It isn't there to bring air back to room temperature. Dehumidifiers will add to the sensible cooling requirements of a space.
Posted by Maillard
BTR
Member since Jul 2021
269 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 1:07 pm to
The one I bought runs independently with its own humidistat. You can also tie it in to a fresh air intake if you have a tight enough house to use as a makeup air whenever you turn on your vent hood. Ours was very quiet. I hung it from the rafters in the attic off of unistrut. Set it on a pan and plumbed it in.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
45602 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 4:44 pm to
Perfect, thanks! Really am thinking of doing this but I'm sweating already just thinking of doing that work in my attic. May just wait it out until the fall.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22475 posts
Posted on 7/3/24 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

Perfect, thanks! Really am thinking of doing this but I'm sweating already just thinking of doing that work in my attic. May just wait it out until the fall.


Why is it in your attic? Most of them are somewhere like an AC closet pulling the air directly from your house. I guess it would be installed in your ducting?

As said its just a 110 outlet and a drain line into your condensate line, so fairly simple really.
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
3770 posts
Posted on 7/5/24 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

I'm handy enough to install one of these things
Me too, but the company that installed mine in new construction wasn’t. If it’s not put in right it will work against the normal AC. I’m tempted to pull it as I feel like it doesn’t work how it should.

It also adds a lot to the energy bill. I don’t see 45% humidity but a few times a year so it’s constantly running.
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