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Keeping St Aug out of Centipede

Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:57 am
Posted by tigerlife36
Member since Sep 2016
745 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 7:57 am
My back yard is 90% centipede but has patches of St Aug that are spreading like crazy. I’m mowing at 1.75 inches but the St Aug is still doing ok. Is there anything that kills it but doesn’t harm centipede?
Posted by BatonRougeBuckeye
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2013
1790 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:04 am to
quote:

My back yard is 90% centipede but has patches of St Aug that are spreading like crazy. I’m mowing at 1.75 inches but the St Aug is still doing ok. Is there anything that kills it but doesn’t harm centipede?



I have the same. Appears the problem is that Centipede grows well in areas that get plenty of sun but areas that are more shaded the St. Aug takes over. Ive even sprayed roundup on those areas and re-sodded with centipede in an effort to combat it but eventually the St. Aug returns.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5272 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 8:45 am to
Try sethoxydim sold under brand names (Fertilome Over the Top 11, Bonide Weed Beater, Hi Yield Grass Killer, etc). Needs to be mixed with oil concentrate. Will likely require multiple applications and expect some temporary yellowing of the centipede following application.

Used widely to kill Bermudagrass in centipede, but St Augustine is not tolerant as well although this is not stated on the product label.
Posted by Goldbondage
Member since Mar 2020
697 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 2:08 pm to
Wish I could upvote more. Sethoxodim (Segment) is your only shot. Light rate and repeated applications. You can go after a number of other weedy grasses with sethoxodim in centipede.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38832 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:15 pm to
I’d rather have the st aug than the centipede
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart...
Member since Oct 2008
3238 posts
Posted on 4/4/20 at 3:59 pm to
my backyard is about 80% centipede; It's nice and I'll enjoy it while it is there, but am accepting that the St. Aug will eventually win out. That's life in south LA.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29206 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:51 am to
I’m in the opposite track, trying to get the St. Aug to boot the Centipede.
Posted by Goldbondage
Member since Mar 2020
697 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 8:37 am to
Best of luck! Fertilize the St. Aug and do two apps of MSM in late winter, early spring. Try to hit the centipede the day it starts to green up, then again 4 weeks later. 0.5 oz/acre rate.
After about 3 years of this you’ll have the yard you want.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29206 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 9:50 am to
Is it too late to hit it with MSM now (I suspect it is)? I’m going to fertilize and drop some lime this week, the St. Aug seemed to like the lime last year.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5272 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 10:33 am to
quote:

I’m in the opposite track, trying to get the St. Aug to boot the Centipede

Making sure you cut the St Aug at the recommended height of 3 to 3 1/2 inches, along with recommended fertilization schedule for St Aug, will also help and speed up the process.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 10:38 am to
MSM can be done all spring and summer
Posted by Goldbondage
Member since Mar 2020
697 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 10:48 am to
MSM is a great product that can be used in spring and summer. I find centipede is susceptible to injury during greenup, however later in the growing season it is tolerant to MSM at the low rate.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6219 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:14 am to
Centipede is definitely going to be injured/killed if msm is used during green up. That’s what happened with the Scotts product 5 or 6 years ago.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:27 am to
Why do some people prefer centipede over St. Aug?

Posted by Goldbondage
Member since Mar 2020
697 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 11:38 am to
Lower mowing frequency, and sethoxodim. Sedges don’t seem to colonize centipede as much. You can kill any weed out of it pretty easily, besides torpedograss. And it’s cheap.

I’d have St. Aug any day over centipede.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6219 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 1:11 pm to
I don’t think people prefer centipede over St Aug. Thats just what builders put down. Centipede doesn’t grow as fast and it’s cheaper.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5272 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 1:22 pm to
Also centipede grows better in acidic soils, although acidic soils can be easily amended with lime, at not a great cost, to make them more suitable for St Augustine.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 2:09 pm to
To me a tall stand of St Aug is tough to beat. I love the lawns in Florida that are cut at like 4-5 inches

Some random google image, not my feet
This post was edited on 4/5/20 at 2:19 pm
Posted by lsurulzes88
Member since Jan 2007
398 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 4:18 pm to
Something I have been thinking of doing, but not sure its effectiveness. My backyard has about 50/50 st aug and centipede. I want the st aug to win. If I slowly lime it to say a 7, would that help the st aug win quicker? Already cutting higher and fertilizing harder to help it.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21449 posts
Posted on 4/5/20 at 7:41 pm to
Agree. Can't beat walking or even laying in a thick St Aug lawn.
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