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Is it possible to enclose this crawl space?

Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:48 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21335 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:48 pm
We continue to battle fleas around and inside the house.
We think because of the vermin that go under our house, even the neighborhood cats.

Can anything be done and it look half way decent?
Any recs on who could do the work?
Sorry that I don't have a better picture right now.

Thanks.


Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6765 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:50 pm to
Fully enclosed and sealed is going to take some extensive work, including having dehumidification machines installed.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21335 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Fully enclosed and sealed is going to take some extensive work, including having dehumidification machines installed.

We might have to do it
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21335 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 12:59 pm to
(duplicate message)
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
859 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:04 pm to
It's pretty common to put a lattice skirt around an open crawl space. If kept painted, it looks pretty good and does not cut off all airflow. Depending on the size of lattice openings, cats are definitely excluded and possibly squirrels. Back the lattice with 1/4" hardware cloth if excluding smaller rodents is needed.

Before that expense and effort, try and get the vermin under control. Remove any clutter (hiding places) from the crawl space and any food supplies. Vermin food includes bird feeders, pet food bowls and even fallen fruit from trees. I had a rat problem because of a bird feeder. I miss the birds, but not the rats.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21335 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:10 pm to
Appreciate it.
No bird feeder, no pets, no fruit nearby.
Assuming cats go hunting for rats/mice under there.

I'll look into lattice and hardware cloth as an affordable option.
Posted by Ping Pong
LSU and UVA alum
Member since Aug 2014
5590 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 1:52 pm to
cover it with rabbit wire and plant shrubs around your house to hide it
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23429 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

No bird feeder, no pets, no fruit nearby.
Assuming cats go hunting for rats/mice under there.


I bet they do. Your yard is a mess.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
16970 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

It's pretty common to put a lattice skirt around an open crawl space. If kept painted, it looks pretty good and does not cut off all airflow. Depending on the size of lattice openings, cats are definitely excluded and possibly squirrels. Back the lattice with 1/4" hardware cloth if excluding smaller rodents is needed.

Before that expense and effort, try and get the vermin under control. Remove any clutter (hiding places) from the crawl space and any food supplies. Vermin food includes bird feeders, pet food bowls and even fallen fruit from trees. I had a rat problem because of a bird feeder. I miss the birds, but not the rats.


This.

Lattice with wire behind it, sprayed with paint sprayer a dark color, an almost blackish gray, and it will look fine and keep out most stuff. Be sure to fashion some sort of gate/removable door so you and contractors can get under the house as needed.

I'd suggest a comprehensive rodent control program and spraying the yard and under the house with pesticide as well.

Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21335 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

I bet they do. Your yard is a mess.

It's called inheriting a jungle and having two under 2. Progress is slow.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 3:02 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21335 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Lattice with wire behind it, sprayed with paint sprayer a dark color, an almost blackish gray, and it will look fine and keep out most stuff. Be sure to fashion some sort of gate/removable door so you and contractors can get under the house as needed.

I'd suggest a comprehensive rodent control program and spraying the yard and under the house with pesticide as well.
Thanks.
The house and yard get plenty of Talstar and IGR.
Posted by NASA_ISS_Tiger
Huntsville, Al via Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2005
8157 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:13 pm to
My mom tried to enclose/encapsulate her crawlspace, but when she was looking into it her insurance company informed her it would invalidate her flood insurance. Turns out FMEA requires a path for flood waters to recede from under your house (that's what she was told by USAA). I don't know your situation, but you may want to ask that question.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21335 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

My mom tried to enclose/encapsulate her crawlspace, but when she was looking into it her insurance company informed her it would invalidate her flood insurance. Turns out FMEA requires a path for flood waters to recede from under your house (that's what she was told by USAA). I don't know your situation, but you may want to ask that question.

Oh wow. That's very helpful.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3213 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 7:05 pm to
Although its expensive, I love a good insulated encapsulated crawlspace. But your're in a flood area then forget about it. Put some lattice under there to maintain a good airflow and spray the yard.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
58581 posts
Posted on 7/1/24 at 10:47 pm to
I might try some real small chicken wire sprayed black. That would be relatively inexpensive and virtually invisible.
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
859 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 1:23 pm to
I notice from your pic that you don't have rain gutters, and the roof overhang is pretty minimal. The outer edge of your crawl space may get water from roof flow during rain, drop splatter, etc.

If that's the case, be sure and use a pressure-treated wood lattice or a good grade of resin (not cheap vinyl). Also, use galvanized wire to minimize/delay rust.

The baseboard looks OK, so that part of the wall must stay dry.

Don't get gutters unless it's absolutely necessary to control wetness. They are just too much work.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21335 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

Although its expensive, I love a good insulated encapsulated crawlspace. But your're in a flood area then forget about it. Put some lattice under there to maintain a good airflow and spray the yard.

Not in a flood area, but have flood insurance. You never know what might happen anymore...
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
21335 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

I notice from your pic that you don't have rain gutters, and the roof overhang is pretty minimal. The outer edge of your crawl space may get water from roof flow during rain, drop splatter, etc.

Good eye. I wanted them for a long time, but we have taken several measures to keep it drier under the house.

1. Had a drain put in to the left of the AC unit, which goes to the road.
2. Eliminated trees so sun can reach the area.
3. Built a small levee of sorts in areas.
4. Grew a healthy stand of bermuda, which no longer allows excessive runoff. Added Rye in winter. Used to be bare dirt.
Posted by chrome1007
Toledo Bend
Member since Dec 2023
553 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 4:21 pm to
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These will keep the bigger animals out. Then Rat Bait. Weekly insecticide bombardment.
Anyway you go, it’s going to cost ??.
Can get at Lowe’s
This post was edited on 7/2/24 at 4:23 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
43425 posts
Posted on 7/2/24 at 5:43 pm to
everything is a process, don’t be scared of a temporary solution (chicken wire). Make wood frames and stretch the wire over them and wedge them in there. Fleas are incredibly hard to eradicate but you have to start at the source

if you have good positive drainage away from the house I wouldn’t add gutters. Watch the sun and see what grows and plant accordingly

you got this
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