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I'm going to be building a farmhouse table soon. Any tips?

Posted on 8/7/19 at 9:38 pm
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 9:38 pm
I have a planner and a jointer. Also have a pocket hole set.

I dont have a biscuit cutter or that 1000 dollar domino cutter.

I plan on using a plunge router and getting some dominos to join the table top.

I know have to allow the table to expand within the breadboard ends and to only glue the center dominos.

I have pipe clamps and several other clamps.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 9:57 pm
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:03 pm to
What kind of wood?

How thick are you planning for the top?

What are your plans for connecting the top to the base and what kind of base are you planning?
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:14 pm to
Was planning on using pine. Thought about using maple for the top and pine for the base. But have to look at the cost.

About a 1 1/2 inches thick.

As far as connecting the top to the bottom I found a video that showed a really good way. But I'll have to go back and watch it. It used wood and glue so that the table could expand and contract.

quote:

kind of base are you planning



Something like this



Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:23 pm to
I don't remember all the technical terms, but when joining the middle section and the ends you need to plan for expansion/contraction in the wood when joining.

One is expanding width wise while one is expanding lengthwise. If you use tight connections the chance of cracking is great.

Was serious about building one a few years back, but won't fit the style now.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:29 pm to
quote:

I don't remember all the technical terms, but when joining the middle section and the ends you need to plan for expansion/contraction in the wood when joining. 


Yeah, I've read up and watched a good bit of videos on that. You dont want your base or breadboard ends tightly secured all the way across the top of the table. Only on the two center boards.

Has do with the way it expands in regards to the way the grain runs.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 10:30 pm
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:31 pm to
My biggest questions are what are the best ways to join the table top pieces together (not the bread board part).
I've seen everything from just glue, to dowels, to dominos, to biscuits, to pocketholes.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 10:37 pm
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:35 pm to
Titebond III

Leave it clamped together for 24-36 hours.

Done.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:40 pm to
K, I havent done much with wood glue before, guess I'm just worried its gonna fall apart. Lol.

But that does seem to be the way alot of pros do it.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 10:41 pm
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:43 pm to
How perfectly straight do my boards need to be?

Are some small gaps that are pulled together with the clamps gonna stay together with just glue?
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 10:44 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73674 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:46 pm to
I would think a method that allows expansion.

Even if that means some sort of latch or hinge system.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:53 pm to
Pipe clamps will close a 1/4” or less gap easy. But then your boards will be out of square on the sides slightly.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:59 pm to
quote:

Pipe clamps will close a 1/4” or less gap easy.


And the glue will hold it over time?

I dont plan on any gaps quite that big anyway.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 10:59 pm to
When I did mine I used pocket holes, glue, and pipe clamps to join the top boards together. It was relatively straightforward and I'd recommend it, but I didn't do breadboard ends.

Like you I stressed most about how to attach the top to the base. I went with these:


You set your table saw fence at the width of the offset of fasteners, and cut a kerf into the inside of the aprons. Then screw the fasteners with enough play to allow for expansion. This was the best solution I found and going on two years with mine with no cracks. They can also be swiveled to remove the top.

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:00 pm to
quote:

And the glue will hold it over time?


Yep
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

And the glue will hold it over time?


Easily, the boards will crack lengthwise before the glue joint gives. Buy the wood now and let it acclimate and it will help. Dimensional lumber that's kiln dried (if that's what you're using) will be a nightmare to work with if you try to use it right off the shelf. Ask me how I know.
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:03 pm to
Cool guys, thanks for the advice. Bout to head home, but I'll check back later.
This post was edited on 8/7/19 at 11:04 pm
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
35935 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:09 pm to
Acclimate it in the house or in the garage where I'm gonna build it?
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17314 posts
Posted on 8/7/19 at 11:15 pm to
Realistically in the garage, it just needs to dry out. Have seen "kiln dried" stuff from a box store weep moisture after cutting. The house, where it will sit, would be optimal but isn't really feasible.
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/8/19 at 12:33 am to
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This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 11:58 am
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 8/8/19 at 7:12 am to
quote:

K, I havent done much with wood glue before,


Gorilla Glue is one of the best.

One I built for my daughter.









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