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re: Humidity Level New Construction

Posted on 7/26/22 at 3:55 pm to
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21246 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

Seems like a good thread to jump in on!

I definitely have humidity issues. I can feel it and I’ve tested 2 different independent readers. Right now if my ac doesn’t run for more than an hour my humidity gets into the upper 60s. When it runs a lot it will get down into the upper 50s. I’ve sealed up a bunch of stuff between my house and the attic/outside, upgrade my ac unit, and had 2 different companies look at the issue. Any ideas?


To kind of rehash things. Common reasons:
- Too much infiltration in the envelope or ducts ran through non-conditioned spaces
- Oversized AC system wont run enough
- Kids/wives leaving exterior doors open (maybe this one wasn't covered already)
- Improper CFM/ton setting at your AHU or furnace (start here)


What kind of companies did you have investigate? What did they say after investigating?
Posted by BadMrK
Addis, La
Member since Dec 2016
148 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:13 pm to
Crawdude, you have a link to that hygrometer?
Posted by Fox McCloud
Member since Oct 2020
3525 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 4:20 pm to
Put the fan on low via dip switch. Brought mine down from 60-65 range to 50-55 range. 350 cfm
Posted by Snow
Member since Nov 2016
100 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:19 pm to
2 different a/c companies. The current one I’m using just checked all of my duct work, did a basic tune up, and basically told me to call back if the issue continues. Trying to get some ideas to pass on.

I’m curious about the cfm/ton setting. I’ll have to research that unless someone wants to elaborate.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21246 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:46 pm to
Provide your furnace or air handler model and we can help.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5690 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:51 pm to
I bought them via Amazon - just type in

AcuRite Digital Hygrometer with Indoor Monitor and Comfort Scale (01083M) Room Thermometer Gauge with Temperature Humidity, 3 x 2.5 Inches
Visit the AcuRite Store
4.6 out of 5 stars 7,364 ratings
-16% $13.52$13.52

It’s dropped in price since when I bought 2 in 2019.

I also have several of these placed throughout the house, in attic, outside carport freezer, and outside on a coverd patio. More expensive but really convenient LINK



This post was edited on 7/28/22 at 9:07 am
Posted by Snow
Member since Nov 2016
100 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:23 pm to
Here are pictures of the model and wiring.

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LINK
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 7:27 pm
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21246 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:35 pm to
What is your furnace model? That appears to just be the motor model you posted.
Posted by Snow
Member since Nov 2016
100 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 7:44 pm to
Rheem RGPS 07EAMGR
Outside is a 4 ton
Posted by Snow
Member since Nov 2016
100 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:07 pm to
After some further inspection and research. This is how the blower is hooked up.

Heat - Blue (Medium speed?)
Cool - Black (High speed?)
M1 - Red (Low Speed?) M1 is the spare spot I believe.

If this is all correct, do I need to slow it down? I'm willing to try just about anything at this point. I've been fighting this humidity issue for years now.

Thank yall a ton for offering help!!
Posted by Snow
Member since Nov 2016
100 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 8:31 pm to
I switched the black and red wire. I’ll see how this works. It came back on!
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5690 posts
Posted on 7/26/22 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

I switched the black and red wire. I’ll see how this works. It came back on!

That’s correct M1 is just a “dead” parking spot for a wire not being used to run the heat or cool. You might want to put the blue wire (medium speed) on the cool spade connector instead of the red (slow speed) to see if you get reduced humidity, as you have the potential to freeze the evaporator coil if by running the blower at to low of a fan speed. You are correct in that as a general rule the black wire is the highest blower speed.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 1:39 am to
quote:

I believe this is the exact reason DR Horton is getting sued. Their homes don’t meet the humidity level proofing we need in south LA. Hence, mood growth


I owned two houses in South La, both built in the 1930s. They still had original single pane windows, no insulation in the walls, or under floor, minimum insulation in the attic. Cooling them was not a problem, and never had a issue with humidity or mold. Because of my experience I would be curious to know what should have been done in the construction of those homes that wasn’t.
Posted by jsk020
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
1760 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 5:24 am to
So you guys were right the thermostat was clearly faulty. The new device was registering 50-55% last night and the thermostat was reading above 60.
Posted by Snow
Member since Nov 2016
100 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:32 am to
quote:

That’s correct M1 is just a “dead” parking spot for a wire not being used to run the heat or cool. You might want to put the blue wire (medium speed) on the cool spade connector instead of the red (slow speed) to see if you get reduced humidity, as you have the potential to freeze the evaporator coil if by running the blower at to low of a fan speed. You are correct in that as a general rule the black wire is the highest blower speed.


I will keep an eye on it. In just one night, it is very clear that the system is doing a better job of controlling humidity. Now that I figured it all out, it’s an easy swap.

It amazes me that I’ve had multiple a/c “professionals” look at this issue and not a single one mentioned that the blower speed could be off.

I’ve been dealing with this issue for YEARS now. I’m not going to say I’m out the woods just yet, but I really do appreciate everyone that helped with this. I am not kidding when I say this problem has haunted me….I owe some beers!
Posted by LSUtigerME
Walker, LA
Member since Oct 2012
3929 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 6:59 am to
quote:

So you guys were right the thermostat was clearly faulty. The new device was registering 50-55% last night and the thermostat was reading above 60.

What type of thermostat? I have an ecobee and found mine was off by a few % as well. You can adjust the humidity readings to match what you’ve measured. This could influence your run times depending on how you have the device configured.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40392 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 7:05 am to
quote:

I owned two houses in South La, both built in the 1930s.


I’m guessing neither of these homes had Sheetrock.
Posted by BAMBAM
Biloxi, MS
Member since Mar 2008
2491 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 7:20 am to
When my house was new a couple years ago I had to get the ac contractor to turn the fans down so they would stay on longer to condition the air.

If I had to guess he could probably reset them ti what they were and it would be fine now but that first month or so it needed it to get the moisture out.

Were spray foam and really tight so I feel like it was just due ti the Cfm setting was too high and it was sealed tight
Posted by jsk020
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
1760 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 9:09 am to
I appreciate all the help guys. So I have a Sensei thermostat, I connected it to wifi and have adjusted the humidity to match my other meter.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
21246 posts
Posted on 7/27/22 at 9:29 am to
quote:

I switched the black and red wire. I’ll see how this works. It came back on!


You should not be changing wiring on the blower motor. The blower speeds are adjusted by dipswitches located on the furnace control board.
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