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How many of you use plant with seeds from vegetables from last crop?
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:41 am
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:41 am
Instead of buying seeds? Besides saving ALOT of money what are the advantages and disadvantages?
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Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:45 am to Sixafan
If you grow hybrids, you cannot save the seed. The fruit will not be the same as it was with the hybrid seed. If you are not using hybrids, then you can save seed but they are usually not very expensive. With saved seed, you do not know % germination either.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 9:58 am to Sixafan
I only save the seeds from my basil plants since they make so many, but I'm pretty much at the point where I don't need to replant each year. They drop enough to over winter and sprout even after I till in the spring.
When spreading saved basil I' have noticed that germination is much less predictable than throwing seeds down from a pack. Take that for what it's worth.
As stated above you can't have a successful heirloom crop from hybrid seeds. Only heirloom seeds from heirloom plants, and then the yield and germination will depend on how well you controlled the seed saving and storing process.
When spreading saved basil I' have noticed that germination is much less predictable than throwing seeds down from a pack. Take that for what it's worth.
As stated above you can't have a successful heirloom crop from hybrid seeds. Only heirloom seeds from heirloom plants, and then the yield and germination will depend on how well you controlled the seed saving and storing process.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 10:31 am to Sixafan
The only seeds I save are from my okra plants. It only takes a single pod to give me all I need for the next years planting since a single okra pod can have well over 100 seeds in it.
Everything else I just buy seed packets. Some things, like pole beans, bush beans, cucumbers, squash, soybeans, I'll use the entire packet of seeds. But there are other things I buy seed for that I only need 1/2 a pack or less for my needs and I'll give them away if someone wants some seeds for their own garden.
Many things will find me simply just buying already started plants since I will only need no more than a dozen or so plants.
Everything else I just buy seed packets. Some things, like pole beans, bush beans, cucumbers, squash, soybeans, I'll use the entire packet of seeds. But there are other things I buy seed for that I only need 1/2 a pack or less for my needs and I'll give them away if someone wants some seeds for their own garden.
Many things will find me simply just buying already started plants since I will only need no more than a dozen or so plants.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 11:17 am to gumbo2176
quote:I remember my parents drying okra out for seeds. I dont remember any others, maybe green beans??
The only seeds I save are from my okra plants. It only takes a single pod to give me all I need for the next years planting since a single okra pod can have well over 100 seeds in it.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:13 pm to Sixafan
I used to use a lot of pepper varieties from my garden products. Peas, some hard to find bean varieties, a lot of flowers and herbs.
When my grandparents had to move from middle of nowhere to the city due to age/infirmity I inherited the freezer full of their lifetime gardening savings. They had taught me how to derive seeds and such (onions, potatoes, sweet potatoes).
Lost all that to the thieves that looted the place and cut a water pipe flooding and ruining the house.
When my grandparents had to move from middle of nowhere to the city due to age/infirmity I inherited the freezer full of their lifetime gardening savings. They had taught me how to derive seeds and such (onions, potatoes, sweet potatoes).
Lost all that to the thieves that looted the place and cut a water pipe flooding and ruining the house.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 1:20 pm to tigerfoot
My father kept seed cucumbers. Probably others, but those I specifically remember.
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:05 pm to Sixafan
only the easy ones (pumpkin, hard squash, melons, sunflowers, etc)
Posted on 1/24/24 at 2:45 pm to Sixafan
I've never had consistent success with this outside of jalapenos. I guess it's the variety or something, but I've recycled the same strain of jalapenos for 5+ years using seeds when I clean them out for poppers.
Posted on 1/25/24 at 10:36 am to Caddo
Ok explain this to me as I’m wondering how the seed producer gets seed w/o using seed from a hybrid plant?
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:10 am to Sixafan
Not sure if anyone mentioned it or not but hybrids for thr most part usually have good disease resistance to Serrano diseases. An “heirloom” are the ones you can keep the seeds. They’re typically reliable year to year but may have issues with certain diseases. I have retained tomato seeds before, take it and smear the seeds on a paper towel and let it dry, then when the seeds dry collect them and save them, put em in the freezer until next spring
Posted on 1/25/24 at 11:17 am to Sixafan
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Ok explain this to me as I’m wondering how the seed producer gets seed w/o using seed from a hybrid plant?
The plant breeder takes two plants, let’s say tomatoes. Two different varieties. He takes the pollen from the male flower and pollinates thr female flowers of the other tot Mayo plant. With this fruit makes, the seeds within that fruit or a hybrid (F1). You can collect these seeds and plant them next year and it’s a hybrid plant. Now, the seeds of the fruit grown that year are no longer a hybrid. Don’t ask me why. But if you plant them, they may grown plants, they may grow fruit, but you cannot rely on whatever the producer is promoting that hybrid to do (examples larger fruit, uniformity, disease resistance, cracking, heat scald, etc).
Posted on 1/26/24 at 6:59 am to FowlGuy
I have heard that but only when the hybrid plant is exposed to pollen from a new plant not similar hybrids. I understand how you dilute the gene pool every time the hybrid gets exposed to a new breed but that is what happens in nature. Rarely are any species nit hybrid. An heirloom exposed to a non heirloom become somewhat hybrid also.
Still not convinced that natural diversity (interbreeding) is a bad thing, except for seed manufacturers. But know it’s true for fruits of grafted trees because they use differnt root stock.
Still not convinced that natural diversity (interbreeding) is a bad thing, except for seed manufacturers. But know it’s true for fruits of grafted trees because they use differnt root stock.
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