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How do I fix sink sweating under bathroom cabinet, causing mildew.

Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:04 pm
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:04 pm
Just built new home and moved in April of 2023. During the summer months last year, we noticed moisture build up under the bathroom sinks in my two daughters sinks in a Jack and Jill bathroom. The drawers were having mildew issues on the tops of drawers from the condensation buildup on the underneath of the sinks. Talked to delta and plumber said issue was from the parts inside the the handles of faucets. These two sinks are along the outside walls of the home. Winter comes and no issues are seen until this summer and the same thing is happening. Has anyone ran into these issues? What was done to correct it? Is it possible to have humidity in these cabinets caused by the materials the sinks and granite are made of?
This post was edited on 7/9/24 at 8:44 pm
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:35 pm to
Put a thermometer in the vanity cabinet with the drawers and cabinets closed to see what the temp is running compared to the rest of the house. A BBQ thermometer with remote would work well for this. You could also instant read thermometer and check the temps of the drywall. You could have poor insulation in that outside wall and also hot air coming in around the pipes.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
10842 posts
Posted on 7/9/24 at 8:42 pm to
I get the issue but how do I go about correcting it?
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/9/24 at 9:10 pm to
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I get the issue


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Talked to delta and plumber said issue was from the parts inside the the handles of faucets.


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Is it possible to have humidity in these cabinets caused by the materials the sinks and granite are made of?


I'm not sure what is the issue but a thermometer or some temp measurements could rule in or out if you have hot air coming into the space from the outside wall. If you do have hot air coming in from the outside wall. You would need to insulate the wall cavity or spray some expanding foam around the holes where the pipes go through the drywall.

Posted by RaginRampage
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:10 am to
Hot, humid air must be coming in from outside the conditioned space, and is condensing on the cooler surfaces. This problem might be amplified by an exhaust fan, as it creates a negative pressure, drawing in more air.

I'm not buying the plumbers opinion that it's coming from the fixtures, does not really make much sense.

I would definitely check the penetrations around the pipes in the cabinet, and maybe go up in the attic and look down this wall to check if it's insulated.
Posted by southern686
Narnia
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 8:13 am to
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plumber said issue was from the parts inside the the handles of faucets

This would mean a bad valve stem. But that doesn't cause "moisture" so to say; it would be a leak and you would notice it.

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two sinks are along the outside walls of the home.

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no issues are seen until this summer

These two things stand out to me.

Assuming you live in the south, obviously we have terrible humidity. And believe it or not, there is hot humid air inside of exterior wall cavities since its not a conditioned space.
Hot air can hold more moisture than cold air. When hot humid air meets cold, it condensates. (like a glass of ice water condensating on the outside)

I say that because I am wondering if you maybe have hot humid air coming from the inside of the wall cavity, thru where the water/drain lines penetrate thru the finished wall, under the sinks, and possibly causing a slight condensate promoting mildew/mold growth.

While I've never of heard of this in particular happening, in theory it makes sense and sort of the only thing that makes sense given what you've said.
Of course, this is all assuming there's no leak.

ETA:
RaginRampage, so I am not crazy for thinking this
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 8:15 am
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 7/10/24 at 9:07 am to
definitely hot wet air coming in as stated above. find the cracks and stick your caulk in them (or expanding foam). You could also mitigate the symptom by placing one of those anti-humidity things in that cabinet that suck up all the water from the air. What's it called, desiccant? Like DampRid.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
10842 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:20 am to
Are there any battery powered dehumidifiers that are sold? Don’t have electrical socket under sink.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6765 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:31 am to
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Are there any battery powered dehumidifiers that are sold? Don’t have electrical socket under sink.


these don't require power. they have hygroscopic chemicals in them that attract the moisture from the air.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
10842 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:42 am to
Thanks. Now that I have looked, is it possible that where the pipes come in through the wall, that the holes allow the heat necessary to cause that? There are stainless steel covers that go over the hoses and pipe openings but don’t cover the hole like it should. I will put expanding foam insulation to fill the little voids when I get home.
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6765 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:54 am to
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I will put expanding foam insulation to fill the little voids when I get home.


that should fix it, honestly. there's no air movement in that cabinet so that air is stagnant, or like someone pointed out, the ceiling vent may be sucking hot outside air in.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3202 posts
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:39 pm to
as many others have pointed out, warm exterior air is making its way into the the cab and condensing on the cool surfaces. Seal any hole in the drywall and that probably will fix that problem. exhaust vents in any bathroom or kitchen exhaust will cause a home to be under a negative pressure unless a makeup/fresh air vent was installed. And in 99% of homes this isn't done. Builders just rely on air leaks around windows, doors, electrical fixtures and poorly sealed plumbing in bathroom cabinets to supply the air that is lost from the exhaust vents.

Also something that can cause a negative situation is a leaking hvac supply duct that sits outside the envelope of the home, i.e. most attics.

I wouldn't waste time on any local dehumidification. Treat the problem not the symptom.
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
10842 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 3:04 am to
This fixed the problem! No more moisture under the sink. Thanks!!
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6765 posts
Posted on 7/18/24 at 8:22 am to
#championship!
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