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Help with new loquat tree

Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:30 am
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25087 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:30 am
Planted 2 loquat trees a few weeks ago. One seems to be doing just fine, the other not so much. Planted them both the same day about 25' apart. Same soil conditions. Used the same planting soil and fertilizer. Same amount of watering. Not sure why one looks fine and the other is dying. Any suggestions?

On an unrelated note, recommendations for something to kill sod webworms that won't harm the new trees? Morning dew revealed a few webs when I was taking these pics





Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
42306 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:25 am to
It's difficult to tell for sure from the pics, but it looks like the poorly one is planted too low. The top of the root ball should be about an inch above adjacent finish grade or higher if you have wet subgrade.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5692 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:29 am to
May just be temporary transplant shock being experienced by that one tree, but I’ll ask you this, does that area of the lawn hold/retain more water after a heavy rainfall or drain poorly? Could be the root system is suffering from excess water. Your 2 trees from the photos appear to planted at ground level (grade) - in poorly draining heavy clay soils it’s best best to elevate the root ball several inches + above grade.

Also look any physical damage to the bark on the main truck of the “sick” loquat.

Off hand, I’m not aware of any disease specific to loquat that would be causing the issue you are observing.

Sod Webworms - no insecticide you use on the lawn will be harmful to the trees. Bifenthrin (active ingredient) is good sod webworm control agent - comes in many brand names for lawns - Talstar, Hi Yield Bug Blaster, etc.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25087 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 10:58 am to
quote:

does that area of the lawn hold/retain more water after a heavy rainfall or drain poorly?
The middle part of the lawn will have puddles during heavy rain but it drains pretty quickly once the rain lets up. That would be closer to the sick tree but the tree is never in standing water itself.

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in poorly draining heavy clay soils it’s best best to elevate the root ball several inches + above grade.
Should I dig up the root ball and replant a few inches higher or leave it as is? When I planted, I dug to where the top of the root ball was level with the adjacent grade before filling in the rest of the hole.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46421 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:46 pm to
plants are genetic organisms just like everything else that is flora or fauna, sometimes you just get a bad one. i've got a massive loquat in my yard that that produces seedlings that will damn near grow on concrete

i'd leave it be and see if it recovers, you'll probably stress it further by digging it up. pull off those dying leaves, mulch the shite out of it, and let it try to bounce back

side note, if anyone wants as many free loquat seedlings that you want, let me know. i literally have hundreds
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5692 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Should I dig up the root ball and replant a few inches higher or leave it as is? When I planted, I dug to where the top of the root ball was level with the adjacent grade before filling in the rest of the hole.

I would personally dig it up and raise the top of the root ball several inches above grade and make sure the hole is back filled filled with native mineral soil and not compost, but the portion of the rootball above ground can be covered/filled/sloped with composted organic matter if you want. The tree will settle down in depth an inch or 2 with time.

If by chance the loquat has root rot from excess water/lack of oxygen, plants rarely recover from root rot. So you’d better off replacing it with another $20 loquat tree. Your choice to see if you can save it, but if there is any good news, it’s better to lose a tree when young rather than have it struggle and lose it 2 or 3 years down the road.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25087 posts
Posted on 4/12/21 at 4:27 pm to
I’ll try pulling off the dead leaves and letting it be then unless anybody else has a better idea. I was running yard sprinklers trying to green up the grass almost daily until last week when all that heavy rain came. If it was just over watered, would it bounce back with a little time?

I guess worst case if it doesn’t recover, I can go to Home Depot and get another one for $25 and replant and try again
This post was edited on 4/12/21 at 4:28 pm
Posted by vemnox
Member since Oct 2003
58 posts
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:27 pm to
It's very unlikely the roots have expanded from the original root ball. My advice is to dig it up (dig in a circle around it so as to not cut the roots) and give it a lift. It's very likely sitting in water assuming you have hard clay soil.
Posted by Sheepdog1833
Member since Feb 2019
753 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 6:47 am to
Also HD will replace it if you have the receipt and a dead tree.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
25428 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:53 am to
All I know is Sugarfields makes some nice loquat liquor.
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