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re: Heat Pump in extreme cold

Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:16 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:16 am to
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Nah, they can work down to about 5 degrees.
can attest.

Ours is still rocking along at 68 degrees and it's 10 degrees out right now.

Going down to 0 tomorrow night so will report back in if it can't handle it.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
21224 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 6:34 am to
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Too high, have to stay within 3 (may even be 2) or unit will go straight to aux.


The thermostat has nothing to do with the system, why would that do anything? You may be right and I’m ignorant I’m honestly asking?

OP just like how the system can only cool so much (15-18 degree drop is normal) your system will only be able to heat so much. It’s not a furnace actually producing heat, it’s very possible the air feels cool but is actually warmer than the ambient temp did you measure it? I’m just curious?

Its probable a heat pump works if it’s continuously working but once it gets too cold bad hasn’t been maintaining a certain temp it’s going to be very difficult to get back up?
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39750 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 7:57 am to
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The thermostat has nothing to do with the system, why would that do anything? You may be right and I’m ignorant I’m honestly asking?


Heat pumps go into Aux mode if set point is 3 degrees or more than temperature. This is supposed to heat the house up faster, but for whatever reason, be it wiring, insulation, unit size, or a host of other problems, I find I lose heat if this happens at extreme cold temperatures. Therefore, I work the set point to within a couple degrees of temperature so the unit stays in Stage 1/Fan without Aux, and work the set point up as the house warms up. At a certain outside temperature, even this fails (as it did a bit last night), but it could be why he didn't get anywhere during the day.

Believe me after the 3rd year of this I'm going to dive into what's up overall. With it being only 2/3 days a year this is an issue I soon forget, and then here I am again . I don't have the reverse problem, AC works great when it's 105 here.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 8:03 am
Posted by CajunTiger78
Member since Aug 2017
2579 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 8:38 am to
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This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 8:55 am
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
42498 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 8:53 am to
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Everything ran but cold air out of the vents.


My upstairs is a heat pump, and it was like 8 degrees out last night. Surprisingly it barely kept up keeping.

Even though the air may feel cold coming out of the vents, try using a thermometer to get actual temps. At these temps it is not a noticeable, but the temp coming out of the vent was actually warmer than the ambient temp of the house.

In extreme temps like this it may only be like 7 degrees warmer than house temp. Still cheaper than running Aux heat if it can keep up.

Edit, I misunderstood, sounds like the temp difference is too great and it should be using the electric heat (aux heat). Temps out of the register should be pretty warm.

I have heard in really southern places, they dont even bother with those since they are never used. But never seen it in practice.
This post was edited on 1/16/24 at 8:55 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
21224 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 9:37 am to
I’ve seen houses in the Florida panhandle without aux/ electric/ emergency heat option. Just the heat pump. It’s not normal, but not extremely abnormal. Usually in rental type homes where the owner knows enough to be extra cheap and go with the cheaper option. Or other lower end homes where it’s all about cost.

I agree with you on the air out of the vents likely being warmer than the OP thinks.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
59569 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 12:37 pm to
Some heat pumps thermostats have a light come on when the Heat Strips are on.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4334 posts
Posted on 1/16/24 at 1:03 pm to
Some thermostats also have a small flame that will blink when the strips are active.
Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
7148 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 9:37 am to
Found book and install paperwork on new heat pump installed 2 years ago. Yes, auxillary heat kit was installed. Tech will be out at 12:30 to see why it won't turn on.
Posted by CAT
Central Arkansas
Member since Aug 2006
7148 posts
Posted on 1/18/24 at 9:20 am to
Update

Tech came and had a couple problems. Thermostat was set so that it never went to emergency heat. Then they found a bad breaker not letting some of the strips come on. Will be back today to fix that, luckily we had heat last night and everything still under warranty.
Posted by magicman534
The dirty dell
Member since May 2011
1650 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:29 am to
First winter after my new unit was installed the house was close to 60 degrees bc my heat pump couldn’t keep up. Emergency heat wouldn’t kick on either. Turns out after my dad and I ran the new power for the strips we never turned on the new breakers.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 4:31 am
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
59569 posts
Posted on 1/19/24 at 7:31 am to
Back in 1981 I was building a house for my Mom and Dad, the power company were giving rebates and pushing an all electric house. Guess what, my dad worked for the power company. He said both heats better than Natural Gas. He didn’t fall for it. A/C with Gas for the winter. Remember this, you look at bathrooms and the kitchen in your house, they have 20 amp receptacles, that’s because of the electrical pull. Hair dryers, toasters, etc. Anything with a heating element has a larger electrical pull.
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