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Drainage pipe causing mini sinkhole in yard
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:20 am
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:20 am
We’ve had a lot of rain lately, and while mowing yesterday I notice a super mushy area in my yard where I had never seen water collect before. I’m in PA and we have sinkholes, so I started pressing around with a stick and discovered the mushy area was about 3 feet in diameter and a little over a foot deep. I dug it up and discovered the drainage pipe coming off our gutters empties there (I moved into this house two years ago and never knew where that drainage pipe went exactly. Looking back I should have assumed it was the drainage pipe but I was so worried about a true sinkhole).
Is there anything I can do to shore up this area in the yard to prevent it from becoming a mini sinkhole again?
Is there anything I can do to shore up this area in the yard to prevent it from becoming a mini sinkhole again?
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:39 am to Jon Ham
To fix the overall problem, you probably should extend your drainage pipe all the way to the street. To fix the sinkhole...maybe a thick base layer of sand under the pipe, then topsoil and sod it?
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:47 am to Jon Ham
They stopped the pipe in the middle of your yard underground? That’s weird...certainly not a good idea.
You just need to extend the drainage to an area better suited for it to drain like the street or a rock base and then fix the low spot in your yard with new compacted dirt.
You just need to extend the drainage to an area better suited for it to drain like the street or a rock base and then fix the low spot in your yard with new compacted dirt.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 8:57 am to baldona
My front yard is flat, and as you get to the sides of the house it slopes down into the back yard. There is no natural downward slope from my house to the street without going through the neighbor’s property behind my house.
The drain pipe empties into the middle of my backyard about halfway up the incline. I guess whoever installed it thought the water would drift down the slope and not just accumulate in that area.
You think I should put layer of gravel where it empties or would larger stones be better?
The drain pipe empties into the middle of my backyard about halfway up the incline. I guess whoever installed it thought the water would drift down the slope and not just accumulate in that area.
You think I should put layer of gravel where it empties or would larger stones be better?
Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:12 am to Jon Ham
Should I put fill dirt (thick, clayish dirt) where it empties? This one site is saying don’t fill with gravel because the water will just trickle down trough the gravel and create cavity underneath it.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:16 am to Jon Ham
Extend that pipe out to your street and let the water daylight into the city gutter.
I’d also replace the pipe with pvc schedule 40 pipe of its the cheap corrugated shite
I’d also replace the pipe with pvc schedule 40 pipe of its the cheap corrugated shite
Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:20 am to Jon Ham
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The drain pipe empties into the middle of my backyard about halfway up the incline. I guess whoever installed it thought the water would drift down the slope and not just accumulate in that area.
You have very porous non-clay soils there? Possible the previous owner was creating dry well where water collects in a basin container and drains naturally into the sub-soil. Just google dry well for info, pics, etc. Of course, can’t install these in heavy clay soils that don’t drain.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:38 am to CrawDude
Ok, here’s what I’m thinking now:
Put stones in a bag made of landscape fabric and place the stones on the area where it empties. My question is whether I should mix in or put a layer of fill dirt underneath the stones to make the area directly underneath the stones more supportive and less porous so it doesn’t create a cavity underneath the stones?
Put stones in a bag made of landscape fabric and place the stones on the area where it empties. My question is whether I should mix in or put a layer of fill dirt underneath the stones to make the area directly underneath the stones more supportive and less porous so it doesn’t create a cavity underneath the stones?
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 9:39 am
Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:42 am to CrawDude
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You have very porous non-clay soils there?
Yes.
Posted on 5/17/19 at 10:17 am to Jon Ham
Intuitively, it would seem to me you just might want to consider enlarging that “dry well” area to increase the area where water drains into the subsoil. You did say you were having a great deal of rain recently. I don’t see where adding soil to the bottom of the basin where you add the stones will achieve what you want to prevent, but I’m not a civil engineer.
Another suggestion, couple years ago when correcting some lawn drainage issues in my own yard in southern Louisiana, I came across some great extension resource materials from Penn State U. on this topic. Just google Penn State Cooperative Extension Service and search for lawn drainage, etc. Pretty sure they had a water resources division in their extension program with a good bit of info on lawn water management, including videos. Don’t hesitate to contact your county university extension agent to help direct you to this information and ask the same questions you are posing here, that’s what their employed to do, and of course they are going to be more knowledgeable of your area, soils than we can be.
Another suggestion, couple years ago when correcting some lawn drainage issues in my own yard in southern Louisiana, I came across some great extension resource materials from Penn State U. on this topic. Just google Penn State Cooperative Extension Service and search for lawn drainage, etc. Pretty sure they had a water resources division in their extension program with a good bit of info on lawn water management, including videos. Don’t hesitate to contact your county university extension agent to help direct you to this information and ask the same questions you are posing here, that’s what their employed to do, and of course they are going to be more knowledgeable of your area, soils than we can be.
This post was edited on 5/17/19 at 11:41 am
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