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re: Check out this plumbing quote
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:07 pm to WPBTiger
Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:07 pm to WPBTiger
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Ed McMahon never worked for Publishers Clearing House. He was a spokesman for American Family Publishers. McMahon never left the studio to ambush families, and he never held a giant check.
There is so much work for tradesmen these days most are quoting what it is worth to them to do the job, their quote has nothing to do with a per/hour rate.
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Posted on 1/10/22 at 10:41 pm to Clames
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I also advised I had the new shark bite fittings.
Yeah, I would charge you more just for expecting me to use that shite.
This was my thought as well. Quote seems high but the plumber is taking risk. First a real plumber will not use shark bites! 2. Will he be held responsible if damage happens from him working in the attic with water and or heavy tanks? How long will you hold his work to some type of warranty?
Posted on 1/11/22 at 2:39 am to keakar
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add to that he has to add something in for possible sheet rock repair if something spills or leaks to cover those damages.
So the customer pays something for damages even if none occur?
Posted on 1/11/22 at 7:41 am to baldona
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As someone that runs a business this is BS.
As someone who owns a contracting business and have "run" others for 25 years now, I'm 100% correct.
2 hour onsite time doesn't mean that project took 2 hours. If you don't know that, you're not going to "run a business" very long.
This post was edited on 1/11/22 at 7:42 am
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:57 am to Simon Gruber
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Probably too busy for this small of a job so he gave you a crazy quote.
This.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 11:06 am to DMAN1968
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So the customer pays something for damages even if none occur?
Correct. We call that insurance in America
Posted on 1/11/22 at 1:36 pm to WPBTiger
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Probably too busy for this small of a job so he gave you a crazy quote.
Probably this. Probably has a full schedule, tough for him to break away from bigger jobs he already has on the books and will be tough for him to justify going out for a 1-2 hour job unless it is worth his while.
Posted on 1/11/22 at 3:29 pm to WPBTiger
I paid $85 for the exact same thing less than two months ago
Posted on 1/11/22 at 9:17 pm to WPBTiger
Don't want to hijack the thread, but what dumbass thought it was a good idea to put a water heater in the attic?
Posted on 1/12/22 at 6:50 am to shawnlsu
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As someone who owns a contracting business and have "run" others for 25 years now, I'm 100% correct. 2 hour onsite time doesn't mean that project took 2 hours. If you don't know that, you're not going to "run a business" very long.
Lol, no shite. But then you should also know your hourly or job quote includes this in any profession.
The whole ‘overhead, insurance, drive time, truck, tools, etc’ excuse is BS. Charge a reasonable hourly rate and it includes ALL of that.
The real answer OP, is get multiple quotes. Yes tradesman are busy right now and are often enough giving absurd quotes to rip people off and make fat paydays simply because they can right now.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 7:17 am to WPBTiger
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His quote, $650 plus any parts
We replace a lot of WHs due to theft in vacant banked-owned properties. We get $1350 per for a basic replacement. $650 after buying the WH and parts is a little less than what we profit on one. He just quoted you the going rate.
FYI, stuff like this is normalized pricing if you look through Xactimate, Repairbase, or KBB which are pricing guides accepted by various industries as their standard. Xactimate for insurance, the largest REO servicer in the USA uses KBB, and the 2nd largest uses Repairbase, and so on.
This post was edited on 1/12/22 at 7:27 am
Posted on 1/12/22 at 7:19 am to DMAN1968
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So the customer pays something for damages even if none occur?
You're asking for trouble if this isn't a consideration. One bad incident can greatly set you back.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 7:25 am to baldona
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It’s possibly under a 15 min job in that situation
We also winterize a ton of houses yearly and nowhere in the world have I seen someone be able to gravity drain a water heater in 15 minutes or less even when pressurizing the system to force the water out. Perhaps you can explain to us how that is possible.
Draining one is 30 minutes to an hour and hooking the new one up is also 30 minutes to an hour AFTER two men get it up the attic ladder. It's every bit of a two-man two-hour job when all things considered. Don't use hyperbole to make your point.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:17 am to baldona
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The whole ‘overhead, insurance, drive time, truck, tools, etc’ excuse is BS.
How so? Its an explanation of the rate that you choose to charge.
Or do you not pay for any of that?
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Charge a reasonable hourly rate and it includes ALL of that.
Yes, and the above is an explanation of the hourly rate, not an excuse. Those are real costs associated with running a legitimate business.
Most average joes think all it costs is the employees time, and that's never the case, unless you hired a non-insured handy man to save a couple bucks up front.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 8:57 am to WPBTiger
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His quote, $650 plus any parts. Holy shite, I think I will be doing it myself, which was my original plan. This is probably a one hour job, so $650 per hour. Even if you figure two hours, $325 per hour.
You aren't just paying him for the time it takes him to connect the tank. You are paying for assurance it's done correctly, and him being liable if it isn't.
Go ahead and hook the sumbitch up yourself if you don't like his quote. I admit it's probably high, but depending where you are located it's hard to find a plumber on short-notice for a small job. I'm a week into waiting on a plumber for a 1-day job at the moment, and he's my friend and lives a mile down the road.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 9:27 am to stout
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Draining one is 30 minutes to an hour and hooking the new one up is also 30 minutes to an hour AFTER two men get it up the attic ladder. It's every bit of a two-man two-hour job when all things considered. Don't use hyperbole to make your point.
Did you even read the OP? Or read my responses. I said that $650 wasn’t terrible.
I have drained plenty of water heaters also fwiw. Draining depends on multiple things most of it being sediment build up. If there’s little to no sediment you are laughably off. With little to no sediment and a drain right there you can drain a 50 gallon in under 10 mins. If OP bought the fittings and put the water heater in the attic then he’s likely capable of draining it and removing the old one.
All he was really looking for is an hourly plumber, which he can find, he just needs to call around. It’s likely going to be $200 though at least pretty tough to get someone to do a service call for under that.
Posted on 1/12/22 at 2:54 pm to WPBTiger
to remove the old one from the attic, install a Tee fitting on the inlet and outlet, run chain through them, then, put a hook in one of the rafters above the attic opening. Use a chain fall (from Amazon) and park your truck(unless your gay) under the attic opening if in the garage and lower the tank into your truck bed (assuming you're not gay) and drive a prius
Posted on 1/12/22 at 5:55 pm to EA6B
That’s a fair price for a legit plumbing contract that has overhead such as insurance, car notes, etc.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 7:54 am to WPBTiger
quote:which the plumber probably won't use. I certainly wouldn't in my attic
I also advised I had the new shark bite fittings.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 8:21 am to bee Rye
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which the plumber probably won't use. I certainly wouldn't in my attic
This isn’t true at all. I had a plumber fix a leak recently in between floor joists and this is exactly what was used. I had to tell them to come back and repair it properly.
Plumbers are not some righteous profession, many of them love a quick easy repair as much as anyone and most property owners don’t know a difference.
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