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Backyard is infested with torpedo.

Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:03 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:03 pm
Used to be St Aug, but torpedo is covering most all of it. What are my options?

Idk if I want to pay for all new sod. Is there any grass I can over dead and let it get going before killing the torpedo some how?

I'm not 100% against going scorched earth and reseeding. That should be cheaper than sod. But I do have a dog that would be tracking mud every where.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 10:14 pm
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9354 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:51 pm to
LSU AgCenter - Torpedograss – one of the most difficult weeds to control

quote:

No herbicides can selectively control torpedograss, bermudagrass and most other grassy weed in St. Augustinegrass. You can kill patches of grassy weeds that grow in summer with glyphosate (keep this off the desirable grass as much as possible). When the grassy weed is brown, remove it and patch the damage with a piece of sod. Doing this repeatedly over the years can maintain a lawn that primarily contains the desirable grass.

You also can use the “nuclear option.” Centipedegrass lawns or St. Augustine lawns severely infested with torpedograss or common Bermuda may need total renovation. This requires spraying the lawn area with a high concentration of glyphosate, with the goal of killing off everything and starting over with a new lawn. Sometimes it takes two applications to get torpedograss killed off.

If you decide to do this when torpedograss is the issue, consider installing zoysia or bermudagrass. Switching to zoysia or bermudagrass will allow the use of quinclorac, one of the more effective herbicides for managing torpedograss. But it is too damaging to be used on centipedegrass or St. Augustinegrass.

Renovation and switching to bermudagrass or zoysia are absolutely the last resort and definitely not the cheapest route to travel. But it may be the most effective way to manage severe torpedograss problems in a lawn.

Managing tough grassy weeds in the landscape takes persistent, repeated effort over the long term. There are no quick fixes or one-time applications that will properly deal with these weeds.


It may be easier to move.
Posted by Gorilla Ball
Member since Feb 2006
11657 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 3:06 am to
If you live In the BR area, I’d go see a guy at the coop in Gonzales, La. he always recommended me a herbicide for torpedo grass. He said roundup was a waste of time. He always informed me never to pull it because it spreads. Trust me I feel your pain.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6185 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 7:15 am to
If you have centipede or St Aug and have a yard full of torpedo grass then every option will be an expensive one. If you try to manage torpedo grass in centipede or St Aug it won't work.

If you want a torpedo free lawn you are going to have to kill everything and start over. If you have a full sun lawn I would suggest bermuda and if it is a partial shade lawn then zoysia. In either of those lawns you can get rid of it with either total tribute or celsius+revolver. Both options are expensive. You can manage it with quinchlorac.
Posted by BankLSU
71201
Member since Nov 2005
739 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 8:54 am to
Ronk, will celcius alone affect torpedo grass? Ive got some in my bermuda.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6185 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:32 am to
It will slow it down but that is all.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6185 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 9:38 am to
The active ingredient in Revolver is foramsulfuron. You can search for just that and try to buy the chemical. It will be much cheaper but your measurements need to be precise.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 10:48 am to
ok i have Celsius... so both front and back om my yards are half full sun half shade under an oak tree. What do you think i should do? Could i seed the area and let what ever i seed come up then kill off everything else, to limit the amount of bare ground? im really trying to prevent having to wash the dogs feet every time he goes outside.
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6185 posts
Posted on 8/27/21 at 2:20 pm to
You'd have to have centipede or St Aug. Bermuda is going to do terrible in partial sun.

There are some option though I don't know if any will work as well or as fast as you'd like. You can kill everything right as we shift into fall. Possibly a little time of muddy feet unless you can have the dogs go elsewhere. You can seed with rye. It will grow fast and thick and you are buying yourself time to deal with the torpedo grass.

You can seed with centipede and dip a gloved hand in glyphosate and wipe the torpedo grass. Long slow process but you won't kill your desired grass.

Complete kill and till. Then seed (muddy feet) or sod.
Posted by whatrhymeswithrobert
Denver to Houston
Member since Jan 2018
71 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:44 am to
Mother of God….

Please don’t tell me I have torpedo grass too. Once I saw this thread pop up I did some research because I haven’t been able to identify this weed yet. It looks like torpedo….

I have burmuda and have been planning on my first pre-emergent application ever this fall.

I’m wondering if I tried to weaken the torpedo before it goes dormant to stunt it.








Posted by 2 Jugs
Saint Amant
Member since Feb 2018
1849 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 7:55 am to
quote:

the coop in Gonzales, La


There is a co-op in Gonzales?
Posted by ronk
Member since Jan 2015
6185 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:15 am to
Hate to tell ya but that’s torpedo
Posted by whatrhymeswithrobert
Denver to Houston
Member since Jan 2018
71 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 8:59 am to
If all other selective herbicides only control it, not kill it…. Would you suggest painting it with glyphosate as the first step to actually kill it without killing my Bermuda?

I’d be willing to do this if I knew it would actually make a big difference
Posted by whatrhymeswithrobert
Denver to Houston
Member since Jan 2018
71 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:01 am to
Nevermind, Ronk. I see your post above. Painting glyphosate, it is.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20432 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 9:05 am to
It’s not easy but a torpedo grass like whatehymeswithrobert is not that bad guys. Round up by hand is a hell of lot easier then re seeding or re sodding.

Get your wife and family and spend a morning with a cup of round up and small paint brush or as said a rubber glove covered in a cloth glove covered in round up.

In an hour you can do 1/2 acre with a wife easily. It sucks, it’s not white man easy, but it’s not multiple weeks of Mexican labor hard either. It’s not nearly the doom and gloom people act like, you just have to spend some time weekly for a little while until it’s controlled.
Posted by whatrhymeswithrobert
Denver to Houston
Member since Jan 2018
71 posts
Posted on 8/28/21 at 11:25 am to
That’s what I’m thinking too. Get this kids to bed. Put on a podcast with a good headlamp and get out there to paint in the evening/night when it’s not blistering hot outside. I’m thinking if I add a dye to the roundup it will help tremendously in knowing where I’ve been.

My only question is will painting with roundup or something like it, will it kill torpedo to the root?
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57438 posts
Posted on 8/29/21 at 12:18 pm to
My front yard I have been doing. the paint brush method the infected part I already nuked. And filling in as it is the drainage path. And I have started putting st Aug cores I have pulled from healthy areas of my yard. I need to just continue doing this before I nuke everything.
Posted by Bignaff
Lake Charles, LA
Member since Jun 2012
9 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 6:27 am to
Question for the board: We installed a pool last year in July and the contractor left some sand that he used to tamp underneath the fiberglass pool shell. Hurricane Laura hits and the sand gets left in my yard for a period of time. Post storm, he removes the sand pile but now I have torpedo growing where the pile was. I sprayed with Round Up and will likely spray again in a week or so. Tried to get in contained to just that area.

How will I know that I killed all the torpedo? Do I have to till and spray again? How do I prep it for sod. My yard is St Aug.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9354 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 9:40 pm to
If it’s just in this area and was growing after sand removal, honestly I’d just dig out an area several inches deep so you are more likely to get the root system out.
Posted by Tigah Jr
The Stick
Member since Oct 2011
846 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 1:06 pm to
Ramrod, may God have mercy on your soul. Torpedo grass is extremely difficult to get rid of. I got some in my backyard and thought it was crab grass. After crab grass treatment didn’t work I took some to LA Nursery and they broke the news to me. I had to spray the area in my backyard with Roundup over the course of 6 months. Burned it in the Fall and re-sodded the area. Even after spraying it multiple times with Roundup some of it still came up again this year. When it would pop up I would walk around with a spray bottle and a paper plate to kill it as it came up. I think I’ve finally got it under control at this point. I do not envy you.
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