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re: $236,000 To Rebuild A 1,120 Sq. Foot House In OPP - Huh??

Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by Tifway419
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:31 pm to
First off, $325K for a 1200 sq ft home is $271/ sq ft. The guy you replied to is saying going rate is about $250/ sq ft. The OP thinks $210/ sq ft is outrageous.

OP, $236K is reasonable for todays market.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 3:33 pm
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:41 pm to
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First off, $325K for a 1200 sq ft home is $271/ sq ft


Land isn't free.
I added a meer $20k for the land of a brand new cookie cutter home.

The point OP is making is while sure it can cost $300K to build a new 1200sqft house, it's also possible to do it for much less. The point i'm making is there are $200k brand new cookie cutter homes on the market right now, but what y'all are saying is that shouldn't be possible, yet it is.
If they can do it for $200k then why can't OP, especially considering he already owns the land, and the slab, and driveway and plumbing.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:21 pm to
Cost of labor and materials in Orleans is higher than elsewhere in the state.

As stated, there aren't 235k new homes being built in Orleans.

I would assume that cost includes a new slab and driveway and plumbing. The "cheap looking aluminum things" is probably going to run almost 10k these days.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 4:24 pm
Posted by TimeAndTide
The Promised Land
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 5:00 pm to
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Cost of labor and materials in Orleans is higher than elsewhere in the state. As stated, there aren't 235k new homes being built in Orleans. I would assume that cost includes a new slab and driveway and plumbing. The "cheap looking aluminum things" is probably going to run almost 10k these days.



Just to make sure we're on the same page here, we're talking about rebuilding a home that is already existing. The land is there, of course. So if a terrible disaster happened, is a new slab gonna be necessary? A new driveway?

With the carport, I know from personal experience at my own house (just last year) that there ain't no way it's close to 10K. I didn't even pay $5,000 for one.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:47 pm to
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by TimeAndTide


Ding bat, answer my previous question
Posted by TimeAndTide
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 8:53 pm to
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Ding bat, answer my previous question


Do you think you can act like an adult first? There's already an OT Lounge out there.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 8:55 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:15 pm to
Guess you want to bitch and moan and sound ignorant without actually wanting help.
Posted by TimeAndTide
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:18 pm to
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Guess you want to bitch and moan and sound ignorant without actually wanting help.


So go ahead and enlighten me with what I'm missing.

You can do that, right?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:19 pm to
I asked you for the insurer of the quote.
Posted by TimeAndTide
The Promised Land
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:24 pm to
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I asked you for the insurer of the quote.


I have no idea, since it's not my home.

What I can tell you is that there are 4 different quotes, which have the separate rebuilding estimates below:


130,000

160,000

206,000

236,000


That's some pretty wild variation.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:28 pm to
Still dodging I see
Posted by TimeAndTide
The Promised Land
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:31 pm to
What the hell is it with you? Do you honestly think a question can't be asked on behalf of someone else?

Like I said, it ain't my house, so I'm not the one shopping around.

Whether you believe that or not is totally irrelevant to me.

This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 9:32 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:34 pm to
This is weird. You know four precise coverage A options but can’t tell me who is quoting the 236k…
Posted by TimeAndTide
The Promised Land
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:40 pm to
That's right - because when people ask for assistance, they sometimes streamline details when doing so. It doesn't mean they lack the info completely, which I can ask for later.

To ask you a much more applicable question, do insurers generate their Coverage A amounts from the same place/program, or say, a select few places that are similar?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:48 pm to
They use a handful of estimating programs. Xactimate is one of them, it takes into things like sf, roof covering type, number of windows, shape of the building, number of rooms and bathrooms, etc. I have gotten out of that line of work but I used to be able to do the paperwork on a valuation after Inspecting the home in 15-20 minutes. I don’t think the underwriting personnel take that amount of time or are that precise in their information gathering and valuations which probably leads to minimum info being inputted and wild swings in coverage amounts
Posted by TimeAndTide
The Promised Land
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 9:54 pm to
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I don’t think the underwriting personnel take that amount of time or are that precise in their information gathering and valuations which probably leads to minimum info being inputted and wild swings in coverage amounts


Thank you for confirming that such a possibility can indeed happen.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 1:00 am to
quote:

Cost of labor and materials in Orleans is higher than elsewhere in the state.


A 2x4 is the same price at Lowes in New Orleans and my local Lowes in North MS. $3.48 each
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74617 posts
Posted on 10/18/23 at 6:13 am to
quote:

Just to make sure we're on the same page here, we're talking about rebuilding a home that is already existing. The land is there, of course. So if a terrible disaster happened, is a new slab gonna be necessary? A new driveway?



I would hope my insurance takes into account replacing the slab and attached carport.

Will it need to be replaced? Maybe not, but if it does need to that is exactly why I have coverage.

Is the slab up to current codes if you had to rebuild ontop of it? In the case of a fire or submersion will you be looking for a structural engineer to approve buulding on the slab?
This post was edited on 10/18/23 at 6:32 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 7:17 am to
How about you find out the insurer
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/18/23 at 9:32 am to
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Cost of labor and materials in Orleans is higher than elsewhere in the state.



What? That's a ridiculous excuse in todays world.
Then use someone cheaper and buy it from a couple miles away.

There's a 1300sqft $192k brand new home in Reserve right now, and it actually has a nice interior with plank floors and tile throughout.
You can't tell me it cost less to BUILD that house in Reserve than it does 30 miles away in New Orleans, key words being "cost to build". It's the same materials and the same labor. The difference is one sits on land that is more valuable than the other. What they sell for is completely different than what they cost to build.

If you can build a 1300sqft house 30 miles away in Reserve for well under $200k, than you can do the same fricking thing in New Orleans.
There's a brand new 1400sqft house in Marrero for $190k. You think the materials and labor are somehow different than they are across the river?


This stupid excuse that it costs more to build a house is just ridiculous. And i'm not saying it doesn't cost more today than it did 10 years ago. It obviously does, but people are mistaking the value houses are selling for, and the actual cost to build them. You can build the same exact 1400sqft house in Metairie, Harahan, Gentilly and Terrytown, and it will cost the same exact amount to build it, yet they will all sell for drastically different prices. That is not something that should have any affect on your insurance coverage, or the cost to rebuild your home if were to burn to the ground. Just b/c you live on St. Charles St doesn't mean it automatically cost 5x's as much to rebuild a house as it would if you had to rebuild the same exact house in Kenner.
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