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Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:34 pm to
Posted by jose
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:34 pm to
How frequently and for how long do yall water your veggies? I planted over the weekend and just curious.
Posted by rooster108bm
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 1:55 pm to
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I had read that the vine borer has only one life cycle per year


Southern states have 2 broods a year.
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:10 pm to
That is good to hear. I ordered some tromboncino, sugar baby watermelon, and sugar cube cantaloupe seeds. I've never grown cantaloupe or watermelon, but I love both, so I'm gonna give it a shot.
Posted by cdhorn28
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 2:40 pm to
My dad's had luck with Cucamelons on his Trellis'.
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 5:38 pm to
Tilled and about to add 13-13-13. Also pulled a ton of roots out that seem to be firmly in the ground below the beds. Is this leftover from last year? I guess I’d expect them to be easier to pull. I still don’t think I got half of what’s in there.



Posted by Devious
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 6:26 pm to
Tomatoes and peppers coming along



Garden graded and potatoes planted



I'll be checking the long range in the next week or so to figure out when I'm planting corn.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 8:32 pm to
I gotcha. Good deal. I'm just letting it ride for now because it's in some zoysia sod that's not getting mowed.

Anyone think this big elephant ear plant will come back on the main trunk? The top was completely soft and mushy from that ice we got last month. I just cut it across where it felt more solid. I do see some stuff sprouting off the sides though if the main one is a goner





Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 2/26/24 at 9:16 pm to
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How frequently and for how long do yall water your veggies?

Too many variables to give a good answer. In full summer heat I watered 1 hour 15 minutes 4x per week. I'm also a nerdy engineer so I calculated the duration based on the drip rate of each hole in the drip tape, number of holes, size of the bed, etc.

It's unusually warm now, especially for my spinach and other cool season stuff, so I ran the drip for 15 minutes each day it's close to 80. Otherwise there's never a need to water in the winter unless I've just planted something.

Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 6:47 am to
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How frequently and for how long do yall water your veggies?


The general rule is, in the absence of rain, about 1 inch of water per week. If you want to figure out exactly how much water that is, it’s a fairly simple calculation. For one inch of water per square foot, 12”x12”x1” gives you an area of 144 cubic inches. Convert that into water volume LINK and it comes out to 0.62 gallons of water per square foot.

If you’re using drip irrigation it would be easy to figure out how long you need to run it based on your emitter gallon per hour. For my drip line each emitter is 1/2 gallon per hour. So I’d need to run it just over an hour to get to 0.62. You can divide that up and spread it out over multiple waterings in a week. But I just go for about 2 deep waterings per week in the absence of rain.

All of this is highly dependent on weather conditions, plant watering needs (some need more, some need less), drainage, etc. This is just a basic “rule of thumb”. One easy way to tell if you need to water is to just stick your finger in the dirt. If the top couple of inches is dry, you need to water.
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:09 am to
After doing some searching, appears I have underground tree roots invading the raised beds. What’s my recourse here? Dig them out as best I can annually?

Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:14 am to
The tree roots will rob your garden of nutrients and water. Personally what I would do, if removing the nearby trees isn't an option, is dig out as many of the roots as possible, trench around the garden, and install a barrier of some sort to prevent the roots from creeping back in.

ETA: The other option would be to relocate your garden.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 7:16 am
Posted by Mr Sausage
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:02 am to


I feel like I am sitting in TAMU Soil Science again. That friday morning 9am class where Dr. Milford turned the lights off and played these videos of different soils getting wet.

Turned the water back on to the garden yesterday and discovered my auto timer must not have drained all the way before the freezing temps during the winter. My upgraded 4 different discharge pipe timer will be here in a few days.
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 8:04 am
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 8:27 am to
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I have underground tree roots invading the raised beds.
Move your raised beds. That's probably the cause of your soil test results as well.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:01 am to
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Tomatoes and peppers coming along

Some of mine are at that stage but others are newer. What's the best next step? Transplant in potting soil for a bit?
Posted by Devious
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:05 am to
I usually transplant mine after the plants have their third set of true leaves. Same with tomatoes. I'll probably be doing that sometime next week.

Eta into a larger container
This post was edited on 2/27/24 at 9:06 am
Posted by LSUJuice
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:40 am to
My tomatoes are a little further along than the ones in the pic. They're in 2x2 soil blocks. This week I'm setting the tray outside for a bit each day to start hardening them off. This weekend I'll plant the soil blocks into larger pots and have them outside all next week. Then will assess forecast as of March 9 and will put into the ground if all looks good.
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

removing the nearby trees isn't an option, is dig out as many of the roots as possible, trench around the garden, and install a barrier of some sort to prevent the roots from creeping back in.

Relocation isn’t an option as my yard isn’t very large and is surrounded by trees and other vegetation.

What kind of barrier, metal sheet?
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

Then will assess forecast as of March 9 and will put into the ground if all looks good.


That’s my plan as well. I fertilized my flowerbeds today because most of my plants are already budding out. If the 10 day looks good on March 9, all my stuff is going in the beds.
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/27/24 at 7:12 pm to
Same, mine are about 4 inches and starting to get some girth to the stalks. I haven't seeded peppers yet.

One thing I'm going back and forth on is whether to do running or bush beans. The ones that I had last year that ran (rattlesnake I believe) produced a lot more than the bush ones did.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:25 am to
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What kind of barrier


If you search “tree root barrier” on Amazon there are tons of options. Most are plastic or some type of heavy duty bamboo. The deeper you can go the better. You may still get some roots encroach, but it should direct them deeper where it won’t rob your garden so much.
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