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re: 2023 Spring Garden Thread
Posted on 4/19/23 at 12:30 pm to meeple
Posted on 4/19/23 at 12:30 pm to meeple
I don't think it's warm enough yet to need to water daily. Soil still retains moisture pretty well, and transpiration needs aren't there yet, especially if your bed is adequately mulched. Now once we are consistently in the upper 80s to 90 it will be a different story.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 1:01 pm to tigerfoot
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I overwatered early. I am watering about every third day but not saturating.
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My beds are too deep and dry out too fast.
Every 3 days in raised beds?
I also think I overwatered early on and am backing off. Taking today and maybe tomorrow off (ran drip yesterday for an hour).
Posted on 4/19/23 at 1:03 pm to LSUJuice
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I don't think it's warm enough yet to need to water daily. Soil still retains moisture pretty well, and transpiration needs aren't there yet, especially if your bed is adequately mulched. Now once we are consistently in the upper 80s to 90 it will be a different story.
Good to know. I was watering daily and applied too much fertilizer to some seedlings (along with some more mature plantings), so my squash and cantaloupes are somewhat yellow. There is some new green growth coming, but I have a long way to go before they look like Pillage's squash a few posts up.... those things are beautiful.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 1:21 pm to meeple
What kind of mulch should I be using on small beds?
Posted on 4/19/23 at 1:22 pm to meeple
quote:I am just guessing here. I may need to start every other day, but we have had a little rain, and it has been cloudy alot.
Every 3 days in raised beds?
I had underwatered last year. I am trying to encourage some deeper root growth, so they dont get so scorched so fast when summer comes.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 2:31 pm to AlxTgr
I use fall leaves and grass clippings. They're free.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 3:47 pm to meeple
I have this tied into my drip irrigation timer. It overrides the water timer if your soil moisture hits a set level.


Posted on 4/19/23 at 5:18 pm to AlxTgr
quote:I don't have much access to free leaves and such, so I buy a bale of chopped straw from TSC. It's covers a lot of ground and is easy to spread.
What kind of mulch should I be using on small beds?
Posted on 4/19/23 at 5:20 pm to PillageUrVillage
quote:You're not going to self-pollinate?
Well, it’s time to uncover them.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 7:15 pm to MLU
Nah, I can’t consistently keep up with that. Gonna have to rely on pollinators.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 8:18 pm to AlxTgr
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What kind of mulch should I be using on small beds?
I (my kids) rake pine needles in November and I save them. There’s a spot we go that has a cluster of pines all together.
Posted on 4/19/23 at 9:08 pm to meeple
Came home to two squash plants and a pepper cut off at the ground. Found the cutworm at the pepper. Didn’t find anything at the squash. The whole garden got sprayed. I am afraid my squash may just be a bust this year.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:06 am to Mr Sausage
Sorry to hear that. Hope that's the last worm you see alive.
My squash is taking a hit as well.... after fruiting two butternut early, every one that starts to form now only grows a tiny 1/2" before yellowing and falling off. Thought it was overwatering, so will see if I back off and what happens.
My squash is taking a hit as well.... after fruiting two butternut early, every one that starts to form now only grows a tiny 1/2" before yellowing and falling off. Thought it was overwatering, so will see if I back off and what happens.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:16 am to Mr Sausage
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Came home to two squash plants and a pepper cut off at the ground. Found the cutworm at the pepper. Didn’t find anything at the squash. The whole garden got sprayed. I am afraid my squash may just be a bust this year.
Is there any way to stop kill/deter them? I lost a couple of cucumber shoots to something that cut them off at the base. I sprayed permethrin and spinosad.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 12:02 pm to Loup
I try not to use anything that will kill beneficials, so I use bt. But it supposedly washes off, so you have to reapply after rain.
I also just accept a certain amount of loss. In the fall something sawed off all my spinach and broccoli seedlings. I found that it helps to pour a beer before checking the garden.
I also just accept a certain amount of loss. In the fall something sawed off all my spinach and broccoli seedlings. I found that it helps to pour a beer before checking the garden.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 4:43 pm to meeple
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after fruiting two butternut early, every one that starts to form now only grows a tiny 1/2" before yellowing and falling off.
Sounds like they’re not being pollinated.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 5:10 pm to PillageUrVillage
quote:I agree with this.
Sounds like they’re not being pollinated.
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:13 pm to PillageUrVillage
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Sounds like they’re not being pollinated.
Here are some pics of them. The flowers don’t even get close to opening before they start to turn yellow and fall off. They’re about the limengrh of my fingernail now and will turn yellow just like this and fall off.


Here are the first two that popped out almost immediately after transplanting.

Could it still be a pollinator issue?
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:35 pm to meeple
If they’re not even opening then it could be some sort of stress or nutrient deficiency causing it. Another possibility is that since you have 2 large fruit growing already, the plant may not be able to support more right now so it’s just abandoning the flowers. My pumpkins did that a lot last year. Once they got big enough they set lots of fruit.
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