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Posted on 3/19/22 at 8:23 am to
Posted by bluemoons
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 8:23 am to
I’ve got some plans. I have better out there. It hits earlier and is shaded by the woods later in the afternoon. My current sun hits around 10 and lasts for the rest of the day. The afternoon sun is rough. Will have the fall to plan it and build it.

I’m either going to go with a U shaped raised bed, or multiple small (4x8’) raised beds. I’ve learned that the smaller ones are much easier to deal with. I also want to build a hog panel trellis for cucumbers tall enough to walk under. I’ve got to get several trucks of limestone for our driveway and I’m planning to surround the whole bed area with limestone over weed fabric.

The new pest out there is going to be the deer though. They are everywhere and I’m probably going to have to build a fence around the garden area.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 3/19/22 at 4:02 pm to
I split up and divided a massive lemongrass today, it was about 4’ diameter. Amazing plant, every sprig is attached to a thick root/rhizome that can become a whole new clump.

it’s a pretty plant and good to cook with too. Highly recommend it in a sunny spot
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 10:32 am to
My garden is planted! As usual, I have too many plants. Yet another bed is now in progress. The better half also mentioned that she would like some habaneros this year. Yay! Anther variety to add to the list this season! I’m going “minimalist” this season. Peppers, and tomatoes for the vast majority of the garden. I do have a few beans on the trellis and some,most likely, sacrificial squash going. We will see how much I get out of them before the vine borers wake up.
Posted by LAwolf
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 10:51 am to
Trying my hand at gardening for the first time this year with tomatoes. Doing them in pots. Anyone got any tips or best practices they'd like to share?
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 11:11 am to
Make sure you use good potting mix - not soil. Fox Farm is a good brand. You want the medium to be loose so the plants don't suffocate. Don't over water the plants. If you post some specifics we can give you more insight (I.e. pot size, desired plants, etc.).
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 11:47 am to
yes...for most pots a mix of rotted compost, peat moss & sand is perfect. You don’t need any clay in it as long as you add minerals when needed
Posted by PTBob
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 2:16 pm to
y'all fertilize as soon as the plants are in the ground?
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 2:18 pm to
I put a mix of nutrients in the planting hole and water in with a soluble fertilizer. Once the plants start fruiting I side dress all of my plants with tomato tone then follow up periodically throughout the season.
Posted by LAwolf
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

Make sure you use good potting mix - not soil. Fox Farm is a good brand. You want the medium to be loose so the plants don't suffocate. Don't over water the plants. If you post some specifics we can give you more insight (I.e. pot size, desired plants, etc.).


I bought better boy and sweet million. Have 5 gallon pots to put them in. Bought some miracle grow potting mix. I am on the northshore so should get plenty of sunlight. Do I need to add fertilizer? When do they need to be staked? thanks for the tips.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 4:45 pm to
Are the pots about the size of 5 gallon buckets? Tomatoes don’t do great in smaller pots. You don’t have to add fertilizer when you plant them out and for your first go at it I would recommend not over complicating it. Just plant the maters and water them when they need it.

If the pots are terracotta, they will need water more often but will probably do better. If the pots are glazed, you need to be careful about not over watering. Only water if the plant looks like it needs it. Plants will wilt in the mid day sun/heat sometimes, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they need water. If they are wilting in the morning or at night, they need water. Some people will stick their finger in the potting mix. If it’s dry an inch or two below the surface, they need water. Once you get the hang of watering you can start a fertilizing schedule. Organic fertilizers are easier to use because there is less risk of over fertilizing. Considering the plants are in pots, water soluble fertilizers will do you well. Nutrients wash out of pots more quickly than beds.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 5:10 pm to
fox farm is the good shite

LINK
Posted by LAwolf
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 5:14 pm to
Thanks for the tips blue moon and cgrand. Yes the pots are about the size of buckets. Hopefully they will be alright. Will more than likely have a raised bed next year.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 5:23 pm to
just a thought

you can make a small raised bed out of literally anything. I have several that are just bordered by split firewood from my pile. Pick a sunny spot, stack some wood three high, fill it with good organic soil and let er rip. Your plants will need less water and will be happier overall
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 8:15 pm to
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Tomatoes don’t do great in smaller pots.


This. Even in 5 gallon buckets once the plant gets big they become tough to care for. Large indeterminate varieties like Better Boys have large root systems and are heavy feeders. Once they start running out of root space it’s tough to maintain consistent watering. And then you’ll need to feed more often cause the soil will become depleted. Then you’ll start having problems with blossom end rot if you don’t maintain a good balance.

I always recommend that if you’re going to try to grow tomatoes in a container, go big. Overkill even. The exception would be dwarf bush types or “patio” varieties.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 8:19 pm to
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y'all fertilize as soon as the plants are in the ground?


For most of the spring fruiting veggies I usually wait about a week to let them get established and then I hit them with a little bit of nitrogen. Once they start flowering I lay off on the nitrogen and feed more P and K.
Posted by LAwolf
Member since Oct 2020
111 posts
Posted on 3/20/22 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

just a thought

you can make a small raised bed out of literally anything. I have several that are just bordered by split firewood from my pile. Pick a sunny spot, stack some wood three high, fill it with good organic soil and let er rip. Your plants will need less water and will be happier overall


With a raised bed do you use potting soil, top soil, or both?
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/20/22 at 8:36 pm to
There are several different raised bed soil options. I use a mixture of peat moss, compost, and vermiculite (1/3 of each). It is expensive, but the mix retains water really well and also drains really well, which is important. You want your soil mixture to be light and loose instead of dense and hard packed. The up front cost with the mix I use is high, but you can supplement it yearly with peat moss and compost.

Another common option is to buy a raised bed mixture from a garden center or a co-op. Buying bagged raised bed mix or potting soil is not really economical in most cases.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
8380 posts
Posted on 3/21/22 at 7:04 am to
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Another common option is to buy a raised bed mixture from a garden center or a co-op. Buying bagged raised bed mix or potting soil is not really economical in most cases.


$8-10 a bag and you will need more than you think.

You will be out hundreds of dollars if you're not careful.

However, it works pretty well. I have used Garden Greaux in the past. No complaints.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:39 am to
best yard money I ever spent was the delivery of 30 cy of shredded bark a couple years ago. Right off the bat it was good mulch but now after rotting down it’s black gold...full of earthworms and mycorrhiza.

add some osmocote and it’s good to go
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/21/22 at 9:57 am to
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30 cy of shredded bark

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