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2019 F150 - Cam Phaser Rattle

Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:54 am
Posted by highpockets
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2015
2124 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 9:54 am
Just started a week ago, how screwed am I? I have an Appt with the dealer next Tuesday, just out of warranty, Will they or Ford take care of me?
Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1793 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 6:39 pm to
If you do not have a third party extended warranty or outside of the factory drivetrain warranty, then yes you are on the hook for it. Remember that some dealerships offer an extended drivetrain warranty to 100k miles or lifetime as a benefit from purchasing from them. I think Matt Bowers sometimes will throw something like that in, even with used vehicles.

At the dealership, expect $3k-$5k total cost and a few days of it being in the shop.


Edit - lifetime powertrain protection for this 2021 Raptor. Seems like a pretty decent offer lol


This post was edited on 8/19/26 at 6:44 pm
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
7738 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:13 pm to
There’s a bulletin out on the cam phaser, Google or f150 forums will get you more info than we can give you. Had my 18 done in 21 under the “recall”. Sons 18 was done in 20 and bought it used.
Don’t give up hope.
Posted by LSUSports247
Member since Apr 2007
1170 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:36 pm to
What engine do you have? Just curious as I just bought a new 3.5 a few months ago ago.
Posted by Roy Curado
Member since Jul 2021
1793 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 8:51 pm to
I think cam phases only affected Gen 2 models.
Posted by Tygerfan
Member since Jan 2004
33927 posts
Posted on 8/19/26 at 11:43 pm to
Had a 2019 Expedition and had the cam phaser issues as well. The recall thankfully covered it.
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
22160 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:34 am to
quote:

At the dealership, expect $3k-$5k total cost and a few days of it being in the shop.

THIS

Also, I've heard horror stories that even after a dealership repair, that it came back...
Posted by highpockets
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2015
2124 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 7:14 am to
quote:

What engine do you have? Just curious as I just bought a new 3.5 a few months ago ago.


3.5
Posted by MaxxPain2
Member since Oct 2021
1494 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 7:47 am to
do not go to robinson brothers for service...they are complete dildos
Posted by BillyGibbons
St. Somewhere
Member since Mar 2020
812 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:47 am to
I don't own a modern Ford but did kick the tires on one a while back. The cam phasers were one of my sticking points.

If it were me, I'd DIY it with a cam phaser delete/lockout kit. If you can't DIY it, I'd look for a local shop willing to do it for me. You lose a few mpg by disabling the variable valve timing but you gain the reliability of not having it...

eta: depending on your engine the lockout/delete route may not be an option
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 10:51 am
Posted by highpockets
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2015
2124 posts
Posted on 8/21/26 at 7:12 am to
I have watched a few vids now, in some cases my VIN may have extended coverage. If the dealer doesn't help, open a case with Ford and push on them. Also when doing repair, be sure it is with the new parts, not the old that will fail again.
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18494 posts
Posted on 8/22/26 at 9:17 am to
What engine do you have? If it is the 5.0 coyote, have you checked the oil and are you using the correct oil?

The first thing the tech will do is check the oil to make sure it is full because that engine year range tends to consume oil and when it is low, you get the rattle on cold start.

Many times using the recommended oil (full synth) and the correct weight (5W-20) is all it needs.

Good luck.
Posted by highpockets
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2015
2124 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 7:03 am to
3.5 and running full synthetic. Oil level is good.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
7738 posts
Posted on 8/24/26 at 8:04 am to
Google found this

Current Status: These specific customer satisfaction programs have expired. If your vehicle develops the rattle now, repairs are typically out-of-pocket unless you carry a third-party warranty. Out-of-warranty replacements frequently cost between $2,500 and $3,500 because the repair is labor-intensive and often requires lifting the cab off the frame.
Posted by highpockets
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2015
2124 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 9:49 am to
VCT failure, 4800 for the repair.my first and last Ford.
Posted by Ziggy
Member since Oct 2007
22160 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 10:55 am to
quote:

VCT failure, 4800 for the repair.my first and last Ford.

Same issue I had on mine (although the repair was a little less) but same year F150.

Also my last Ford.
Posted by Chilly Bill
Member since Mar 2004
341 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 1:48 pm to
Sorry to say but if you are at the dealer, you are looking at probably over $6,000. Just had it done (and not at Robinson Brothers). Cam phasers, timing chain/tensioners and water pump. I'd do all that since they have it all opened up. Probably should replace the belts too.
What's your mileage? I was at about 125,000.
Posted by highpockets
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2015
2124 posts
Posted on 8/26/26 at 2:45 pm to
55k miles
Posted by Chilly Bill
Member since Mar 2004
341 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:19 am to
Wow. Thats low for a 2019.
Good luck at dealer. Just wanted you to know my experience so you can gauge what they tell you.
My work took only a few days once they diagnosed everything and we worked out price.
Posted by Randman
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2018
388 posts
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:24 pm to
quote:

3.5 and running full synthetic. Oil level is good.


Which oil filter are you using? Mine would occasionally rattle on startup with Perolator filters.
I switched to Motorcraft filters and it stopped.
I also started using Valvoline Restore & Protect oil to remove any deposits from inside the engine. The startup rattle has disappeared. Engine runs smooth. 2017 3.5 with 152,000 miles.
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