re: Workout Split

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I will preface for those that aren't on this board frequently that LSU777 is a great contributor and has great knowledge. I am not denying that in the least. I have learned things from his posting and have no personal agenda against. I simply disagree with some things that are a broader part of the culture of how the world works in this space.

The problem with health and fitness culture in general is that there are many pathways to the end goal. Some are beneficial. Some are not beneficial. Some are more optimal. Some are less optimal. Those measures of "beneficial" and "optimal" are, and will always be to some degree by their nature, subjective. I don't have issue with pointing people towards a better "direction". But when there's a constant "I don't do it this way, so you're wrong" presentation....it's simply not helpful to the purpose of the community at large. I have read through the Greyskull primer that is legendary around the internet. I read the "frickarounditis" webpage. By the very nature of both of those posts...there is nothing that disqualifies the split I posted as "suffering"

- Both days are centered around multiple "Big 5" compound lifts (Day A - Squats, Rows, Bench | Day B - Overhead Press, Deadlift), which constitute around 70-80% of the work being done in a given days workout.
- Those lifts are given precedence and done in the beginning of the workout to devote the most energy to
- Squats and Deadlifts are not avoided, and are in fact, prioritized
- By spirit of Greyskull, it's being able to lift without sacrificing being able to do other things
- There's not a drop of "ab work" to be found
- All lifts, whether primary or secondary, follow some form of a linear progression structure
- All of the secondary work was chosen from listening to guys like Nippard, Isratel, etc to find the best "bang for the buck" options with the equipment I have available
- All work is measurable
- All muscle groups are hit in the 16-20 sets per week range


I want to be strong. Absolutely. But I do not care about being the strongest version of myself. I have no desire to deadlift 700 lbs or Squat 500 lbs. My modality of choice leans towards hypertrophy. My "program" is designed to encourage hypertrophy over strength, while still maintaining a good (again, subjective) level of strength. I don't want to look like Mark Rippetoe.


So I say all that to say, again....it's just different paths. I don't have a problem being told I'm wrong. I don't have a problem learning and evolving my strategy as I gain knowledge. Is my program the most super amazing optimal program in the world? Who cares. It checks off all the primary accepted boxes of what a good program should do. But let's just stop acting like there's only one way to skin a cat.

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no i agree with you...I dont want to look like mark either but to be fair, mark is almost 70 and loves beer and guns more than anything else. understand he looks like that because he chooses, not because of the program

and there is nothing wrong with your program overall...it just has a lot of time wasting in it overall

in the end if you are progressing that is all that matters

im much more into the aethetics side of things

what im saying is for the natural lifter...most of that is unnecessary for most if the goal is just to look good, have other interest outside of the gym and not live in the gym.

if you want to look your absolute best and dont care about time in the gym....well then i suggest john meadows mountain dogg training. email me ill send them all to you

if you want fun and being able to rotate through programs and arent a beginner and want some strength with some pump work for fun....ppsa is the way. its a great blend of strength and pump work

if you want no nonsense get after it, keeping yourself north of vag....531 is prolly the way

if you want the absolute most monsterous version of yourself....prolly should look at Daunte Trudal and hit up DC training, just be prepared to hit 400g protein a day the move to fortitude training

if you want to look good as a natural with minimual time in the gym...greyskull, leangains, kinobody, mindpump are the way


if you want to frick around all making sure you are perfect for hypertrophy all day every day then hit up RP...understand though mikes way aint the only way nor is it the best way for most people




and please dont think that me saying...hey prolly a better way means i hate the program you laid out. its just a lot of fluff. if that keeps you motivated...get after it.