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Work out/Plyometrics for 10 year old
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:00 pm
Anyone have any thoughts or critiques of the following program for my almost 10 year old. I put it together from some online sources. He wants to lift weights.
I have an adjustable weight kettle bell (8 to 40 pounds) and plyo box (20,24 in) and put some plyo dots on our floor.
He wants to jump higher, and also wants to be strong enough to shoot 3 pointers on a 10 foot goal.
Set 1 - 3 x10
GOBLET SQUAT TO OVERHEAD PRESS
PUSH UPS
SINGLE LEG POGO
Set 2 - 3 x 10
SUMO DEADLIFT
BOX JUMPS
RAPID FEET (DOTS) -BOTH FEET, R FOOT,L FOOT
Set 3 - 2 x 10
BOX STEP UPS - one foot jump
PLANK SHOULDER TAPS
LATERAL BOX JUMPS (Right then Left)
I have an adjustable weight kettle bell (8 to 40 pounds) and plyo box (20,24 in) and put some plyo dots on our floor.
He wants to jump higher, and also wants to be strong enough to shoot 3 pointers on a 10 foot goal.
Set 1 - 3 x10
GOBLET SQUAT TO OVERHEAD PRESS
PUSH UPS
SINGLE LEG POGO
Set 2 - 3 x 10
SUMO DEADLIFT
BOX JUMPS
RAPID FEET (DOTS) -BOTH FEET, R FOOT,L FOOT
Set 3 - 2 x 10
BOX STEP UPS - one foot jump
PLANK SHOULDER TAPS
LATERAL BOX JUMPS (Right then Left)
Posted on 2/18/24 at 6:51 pm to RocktownHog52
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Posted on 2/18/24 at 7:44 pm to RocktownHog52
Just wanted to chime in and say HELL YEAH!
I love hearing about parents getting their kids into training.
I was born in 1978, so I grew up in the era of "Don't lift weights until you're done growing or you'll stunt your height" and other such nonsense. Whenever I'd go to wrestling practice at the Y, I'd have to walk by the "weight lifting room" with all it's shiny metal magic devices and other delights. I was told, "that's not for you, you aren't old enough yet"......so sad.
I'm glad it's better now and people know better.
I love hearing about parents getting their kids into training.
I was born in 1978, so I grew up in the era of "Don't lift weights until you're done growing or you'll stunt your height" and other such nonsense. Whenever I'd go to wrestling practice at the Y, I'd have to walk by the "weight lifting room" with all it's shiny metal magic devices and other delights. I was told, "that's not for you, you aren't old enough yet"......so sad.
I'm glad it's better now and people know better.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 12:08 am
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:07 pm to RocktownHog52
Im gonna give a very honest opinion from someone who used to own a gym, did classes for kids, and was a college strength coach. Ive read Supertraining several times which was and still is the gold standard of plyometrics and athletic development along with related books which would stack to the ceiling....
Kids need to play a wide variety of sports and just play in general. A game of kick the can or tag will be more effective in development of movement than any structured program at that age. The more the better
What you can do is begin to teach them how to train and eat correctly. They need to master pushup and pullup form and do them every day. You can begin to teach them the correct squat form and can use light weight for this(even a bar). The absolute best thing you can do for a 10 year old is to teach him good training habits. You do this by making it fun. Train with him, if hes doing daily pushups and pullups, do them with him.
Consistency will be a much better developer than classes or even hard training sessions. Make a "jump spot" somewhere where its safe to jump. Hang something from a string and every time he is able to touch it, raise it up some. If he wants to do a class with his buddies and he enjoys it, it might be worth it just to get some trained eyes helping him master form or just learn to push himself physically.
Once he hits puberty, dedicated training becomes more important. If hes already learned to eat well and train with correct form, hell be a step ahead.
Kids need to play a wide variety of sports and just play in general. A game of kick the can or tag will be more effective in development of movement than any structured program at that age. The more the better
What you can do is begin to teach them how to train and eat correctly. They need to master pushup and pullup form and do them every day. You can begin to teach them the correct squat form and can use light weight for this(even a bar). The absolute best thing you can do for a 10 year old is to teach him good training habits. You do this by making it fun. Train with him, if hes doing daily pushups and pullups, do them with him.
Consistency will be a much better developer than classes or even hard training sessions. Make a "jump spot" somewhere where its safe to jump. Hang something from a string and every time he is able to touch it, raise it up some. If he wants to do a class with his buddies and he enjoys it, it might be worth it just to get some trained eyes helping him master form or just learn to push himself physically.
Once he hits puberty, dedicated training becomes more important. If hes already learned to eat well and train with correct form, hell be a step ahead.
Posted on 2/18/24 at 9:13 pm to DrDenim
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I was born in 1978, so I grew up in the era of "Don't lift weights until you're done growing or you'll stunt your height" and other such nonsense. Whenever I'd go to wrestling practice at the Y, I'd have to walk by the "weight lifting room" with all it's shiny metal magic devices and other delights. I was told, "that's not for you, you aren't old enough yet"......so sad.
Yeah that never made sense to me. It it were true, farm boys would be midgets instead of bulldozers which they all seem to become.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:10 am to RocktownHog52
I’m on my third kid lifter, and the things that worked the best for us: Inchworms, Ring Rows, Loaded Carries, squats.
For all loaded movements, I really like sandbags (minimal injury risk even if dropped on foot, simple to microload, cheap) and medballs.
For all loaded movements, I really like sandbags (minimal injury risk even if dropped on foot, simple to microload, cheap) and medballs.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:25 am to LSUfan20005
That's what I would assume would work best for kids, carrying and throwing heavy stuff. The best thing I did as a 10 and under kid for strength was probably gymnastics/tumbling classes, wrestling, and my parents being constantly engaged in home improvement or landscaping projects so I was always allowed to help carry bags of soil/fertilizer, or dig holes, etc.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:13 am to RocktownHog52
quote:
Done. Appreciate it
i did not get it
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:30 am to scottydoesntknow
quote:
Im gonna give a very honest opinion from someone who used to own a gym, did classes for kids, and was a college strength coach. Ive read Supertraining several times which was and still is the gold standard of plyometrics and athletic development along with related books which would stack to the ceiling....
Kids need to play a wide variety of sports and just play in general. A game of kick the can or tag will be more effective in development of movement than any structured program at that age. The more the better
What you can do is begin to teach them how to train and eat correctly. They need to master pushup and pullup form and do them every day. You can begin to teach them the correct squat form and can use light weight for this(even a bar). The absolute best thing you can do for a 10 year old is to teach him good training habits. You do this by making it fun. Train with him, if hes doing daily pushups and pullups, do them with him.
Consistency will be a much better developer than classes or even hard training sessions. Make a "jump spot" somewhere where its safe to jump. Hang something from a string and every time he is able to touch it, raise it up some. If he wants to do a class with his buddies and he enjoys it, it might be worth it just to get some trained eyes helping him master form or just learn to push himself physically.
Once he hits puberty, dedicated training becomes more important. If hes already learned to eat well and train with correct form, hell be a step ahead.
while those things are good, let me play devils advocate
if a kid weighs 100 lbs, we know a pushup is 62% of bodyweight...how is him lifting the bar or dumbbells that weigh less different?
the researsh shows that the earlier a kid learns to lift the better they are long term as fara s brain health, athletics and long term healthy habits
now i do agree it needs to be a progression and do agree with your plan, just saying logically using a bar is no different than bodyweight
so having 3 young boys myself and training others, this is what i have learned
1) teach them how to hinge properly using the RDL and db or kb to teach it. learning to push the arse back into an object like a wall to really feel it. Kb is the best for teaching sumo deadlift also
2) teach them how to goblet box squat effectively using a 12" box and using the corners to learn to keep calves against the box and push the arse back to sit. then exploding up. this also builds the arms as they hold heavier and heavier weight. sandbag works well here
3) crossack lunges, KOT lunges, curtsy lunge and reverse lunges- Crossack lunges are important to be able to have the mobility to go leg to leg all the way down. Joey Bergles has talked about this. you loose this ability quick.
reverse lunge is one of the best indicators for overall stability. goal should be to be able to hold a deep reverse lunge iso hold for 3 min
curtsy lunge is for balance and building the glutes
kot is for mobility and strength in really deep positions
4) nordic curl- really important to build hamstring strength
5) ring pushups- great for stability and being able to learn to move the body through space. easily progress able
6) chins- extremely important to have strength and mobility to do full chest to bar chins. alos make them do iso holds at different positions and go slow on eccentric as they need to be able to control eccentrics
7) facepulls or band pull aparts for shoulder health and learning how to retract and protract the scapula.
8) farmer or sandbag carries work awesome
9) the sled is your best friend. that and the sand bag might be the best things for training kids
10) jump rope- they suck at it
11) jump a lot, depth drops, DB jumps, broad jumps
12) VBT is god send when training pre pubescent kids. Pre puberty they can not just linear progress their way through things. So how do we keep them motivated to lift and chase PRs...use same weight and go for velocity PRs.
13) crawls- bear, reverse bear both with flat back, alligator crawl, crab walk, duck walk etc. these make a great warm up and are great for mobility
14) broomstick dislocates everyday help a ton with posture and will help a ton with shoulder health
15) hangs both from the bar, german hangs from the rings etc
oh and hill sprints
a simple program with 1 sandbag, rings, a band and a simple 12" box can pay huge dividends.
the programs im gonna send you are the john meadows youth program, the overtime athletes program and a couple others.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:31 am to RocktownHog52
Pool season 2, silverback, then oak tree. The boy has to learn.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:22 am to lsu777
quote:
if a kid weighs 100 lbs, we know a pushup is 62% of bodyweight...how is him lifting the bar or dumbbells that weigh less different?
I have zero problem with kids using weights. Pushups and pullups are just practically much easier and require little equipement
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:24 am to scottydoesntknow
quote:
I have zero problem with kids using weights. Pushups and pullups are just practically much easier and require little equipement
oh i agree was just playing devils advocate on many of the arguments used against weights
Posted on 2/19/24 at 11:26 am to lsu777
He plays basketball or football outside with the neighbor kids almost every day.
This was the first year in basketball he recognized he should be working on drills to get better and stronger than just playing and having fun.
If he wants to and will keep up with it, I’ll be happy to get any equipment he needs.
This was the first year in basketball he recognized he should be working on drills to get better and stronger than just playing and having fun.
If he wants to and will keep up with it, I’ll be happy to get any equipment he needs.
Posted on 2/19/24 at 2:02 pm to RocktownHog52
quote:
He wants to jump higher, and also wants to be strong enough to shoot 3 pointers on a 10 foot goal.
For jumping, have him do more explosive drills.
For the shooting part, have him practice religiously on his shooting form. Have him get good at the shots he can take from his current range, then slowly move the shot further back. Shooting alone will help him strengthen his arms to get farther shots down. If he's really interested in basketball, have him work on handwork/dribbling with both hands.
As he gets older, he'll naturally become larger/stronger over time. It doesn't have to be immediate. A lot of sports at his age are a fairly level playing field unless there's a kid who is unnaturally huge for their size. Most 10 years will be around the same size and the major difference will be actually athletic ability instead of actual strength.
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