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re: What are this board’s feelings on stability training?

Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:12 am to
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:12 am to
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I can guarantee EXOS uses stability training programs when training their athletes because I have trained there with the NFL players numerous times through the years way back to when they were located on the ASU campus. As a matter of fact, Mark Verstegen has stated that developing pillar strength & stability (from the shoulders to the knees) is the cornerstone of his athlete training programs.



not doing things like squating on a bosu ball or balance ball or weight training on unstable services.

I just went back and looked at the PSC stuff since you mentioned to make sure i didnt forget something...and the pillar prep is exactly what i remember...about stability/mobility on a joint by joint approach and movement prep.

maybe we are talking about two different things or maybe its because i have not been to the facility but they do not teach training on unstable surfaces in their certifications. When i am talking about stability training like the OP is mentioning, its more....weight training on unstable surfaces. We know that doesnt work in terms of improving performance.


sure mark does plenty of core work using the medicine ball but that is not stability training.

defranco talks about this all the time how 99% of the things done with the bosu ball is complete bullshite. Even wreck who created it says people use it stupidly.
Posted by ronricks
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:24 am to
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Stuff involving wobble boards, Bosu’s, plyo/swiss balls, etc?


People talk on here about majoring in the minors and it seems to me this is one of the best examples and most on here aren't going to benefit from this in any meaningful way. Just train hard and with intensity in whatever fitness program you do. A god damn wobble board isn't going to do anything for 99% of people on here because most of you aren't eating right, sleeping right, or training worth a crap to begin with.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:32 am to
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you are measuring these performance benefits how?


Balance is critically important as we age.

Not everything is about your kids that are going to hit .275 in high school and then go to mcneese like every other kid anyway.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:34 am to
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do not teach training on unstable surfaces in their certifications.


That’s not stability training. I guess our mistake was assuming you weren’t a fricking retard
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:40 am to
I don't have any studies so its anecdotal. I know that my strength and endurance have increased and so has my balance. When I started I could barely stay on the 2x4. If you want a work out try crawling on a 2x4.

As far a performance on the field of play I have no clue because don't play any sport.
Posted by ronricks
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:49 am to
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Balance is critically important as we age.


Mingo - for 99% of people on this forum what is going to help with balance more effectively? A fricking 'wobble board' or someone who walks five days a week on a treadmill at 15% incline at 3.0 speed for 30 to 45 min?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:53 am to
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That’s not stability training. I guess our mistake was assuming you weren’t a fricking retard



in the S&C world that is referred to as stability training fricking retard.

this is the problem....your little fricking 155 lbs arse comes on here thinking you know everything when you dont know shite

working out on unstable surfaces is considered stability training in the S&C world stupid frick.

go look at joel seedmans bullshite. Sure i guess he does technically "train" pro athletes but his methods are complete horse shite


and look mother fricker...im usually one of the ones that tolerates you and your insults but leave my fricking kids out of this. dont go down that path
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 8:55 am to
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Mingo - for 99% of people on this forum what is going to help with balance more effectively? A fricking 'wobble board' or someone who walks five days a week on a treadmill at 15% incline at 3.0 speed for 30 to 45 min


no man, all the S&C guys are wrong...mingo is right.

Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:00 am to
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no man, all the S&C guys are wrong...


This is just your projection. It’s what you do because you’re (notice this correct homophone usage here) incapable of having an intelligent conversation.

It’s what you and Ron do, give absurd examples or platitudes and then move the goalposts when you realize you aren’t making sense. You got your little skinny fat cronies here, I don’t know what else you need.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:13 am to
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This is just your projection. It’s what you do because you’re (notice this correct homophone usage here) incapable of having an intelligent conversation.

It’s what you and Ron do, give absurd examples or platitudes and then move the goalposts when you realize you aren’t making sense. You got your little skinny fat cronies here, I don’t know what else you need.


then wtf is stability training? please tell me what it is if it doesnt involve training on things like a bosu ball, slack board, sand etc


this is exactly what you always do because you never want to have an actual conversation like an adult...you come in and insult and call people dumbasses and talk about how everyone is stupid but you and nobody trains hard but you

we ask for specifics and you change the subject. you do that shite on the OT too....i literally had to practically beg you for recommendations on actual beaches instead of platitudes...its because you are immature and incapable of have an actual conversation

you will do just like you did above though and say....everyone else is incapable of having an intelligent conversation

but in the S&C world....stability training in terms of full body stability is referring to using unstable surfaces or objects to train

now plenty of joint specific benefits for using things like earthquake bar or hanging kettlebells from the bar. but not training on unstable surfaces....why because you dont perform everyday or sport specific task on unstable surfaces.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:20 am to
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but in the S&C world....stability training in terms of full body stability is referring to using unstable surfaces or objects to train


Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:36 am to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:41 am to
That’s a waste of time Jaxon and Braxton will never start for Barbe doing exercises like that
Posted by ronricks
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:42 am to
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It’s what you and Ron do, give absurd examples or platitudes


We know walking on an incline increases balance via engaging stabilizing muscles, strengthens eccentric muscle control, and improves kinesthesia.

Nobody on here including the skinny fat people you like to mention will benefit from a fricking 'wobble board' more than they will incline walking either outside or on a treadmill. This is not an 'absurd' thought.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:42 am to
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Nobody on here including the skinny fat people you like to mention will benefit from a fricking 'wobble board' more than they will incline walking either outside or on a treadmill.


I agree
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:54 am to
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then wtf is stability training? please tell me what it is if it doesnt involve training on things like a bosu ball, slack board, sand etc



I've always considered things like single leg RDLs, waiter/suitcase carries, sissy squats, etc to be stability training

is that not standard?
This post was edited on 5/28/25 at 9:55 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 9:59 am to
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I've always considered things like single leg RDLs, waiter/suitcase carries, sissy squats, etc to be stability training

is that not standard?


more just unilateral training.

stability training refers to use of unstable surface to train on. like doing a squat on an upside down bosu ball

there are joint benefits to doing some of the upper body lifts though like pushups on bands or use of the earthquake bar.

but doing things like squats on unstable surface, running on sand, etc....yea no benefit

plenty of benefit to doing unilateral training like the ones you mentioned, things like reverse lunges, RFESS, single arm carry, single arm bench etc.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:08 am to
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stability training refers to use of unstable surface to train on. like doing a squat on an upside down bosu ball


Posted by PrezCock
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 10:14 am to
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but doing things like squats on unstable surface, running on sand, etc....yea no benefit


I agree with this on things like BOSU balls where there are chances of huge ranges of instability. But with something that has more controlled and regulated oscillations, like a power plate, there are definitely benefits. I use them often and have great results in rehabbing ACL repairs. There's a benefit using machines like the power plate in tendon/ligament health and strength.

As for other forms of "stability training". I really do like proprioceptive exercises, i.e. weights hanging from bands from the bar/bamboo bars, in repetitive effort exercises.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/28/25 at 11:44 am to
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I agree with this on things like BOSU balls where there are chances of huge ranges of instability. But with something that has more controlled and regulated oscillations, like a power plate, there are definitely benefits. I use them often and have great results in rehabbing ACL repairs. There's a benefit using machines like the power plate in tendon/ligament health and strength.



i havent looked at the research on lower body rehab so i can not comment on that

quote:

As for other forms of "stability training". I really do like proprioceptive exercises, i.e. weights hanging from bands from the bar/bamboo bars, in repetitive effort exercises.


yes i agree and commented on that earlier that their are benefits to the joints from these types of movements.

but in the S&C world when people talk about stability training, unless talking about training to stabilize a single joint, they are talking about training on unstable surfaces.
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