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Posted on 6/22/21 at 2:19 pm to jordan21210
I need a pair of racers to add to my current rotation. I’d appreciate suggestions as long as they aren’t 150 bucks or more. I don’t have any interest in spending that much.
I have run in ASICS, Nike, and Altra. I haven’t tried brooks or Reebok but am open to trying them if they offer particularly good racers for a decent price. I have run in light weight shoes like Altra “the one” and ASICS gel lyte in the past but never an actual racing flat.
I have run in ASICS, Nike, and Altra. I haven’t tried brooks or Reebok but am open to trying them if they offer particularly good racers for a decent price. I have run in light weight shoes like Altra “the one” and ASICS gel lyte in the past but never an actual racing flat.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 3:06 pm to LSU Patrick
You want an actual flat or a plated shoe with some stack? Also, preference on drop? I recall you run a good bit in 0 drop.
Posted on 6/22/21 at 3:13 pm to jordan21210
I can run in 0 drop, but I wouldn't mind a little bit of a wedge (up to 12mm) for speedier workouts and races. I am open to either a flat or something with a little more cushion. I am a light runner with a midfoot strike and no over or under pronation issues, so I can get away with a lot. For reference, I am running in Nike React Miler for my longer runs, altra paradigm for my recovery runs, and using my altra escalantes (currently at about 1000 miles of use) for my faster runs.
This post was edited on 6/22/21 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 6/22/21 at 9:16 pm to LSU Patrick
I’m far from an expert on most racing shoes because I don’t race much and I’m not fast. Others can probably chime in. If you don’t mind some stack, I can tell my Endorphin Speeds are going to be awesome and you can get those for $90 right now.
Low stack, no plate options in the $100 range:
- Asics Hyperspeed
- Atreyu
- New Balance 1400v6
- New Balance Rebel
- Skechers Horizon Vanish
- Saucony Kinvara
- Saucony Fastwitch
Higher stack, no plate:
- Skechers Razor 3 or the Elite if you want a plate
- Hoka Rincon
- Asics EvoRide
- Asics NoosaTri 13
Probably a whole bunch of others but I can’t rack my brain anymore.
Low stack, no plate options in the $100 range:
- Asics Hyperspeed
- Atreyu
- New Balance 1400v6
- New Balance Rebel
- Skechers Horizon Vanish
- Saucony Kinvara
- Saucony Fastwitch
Higher stack, no plate:
- Skechers Razor 3 or the Elite if you want a plate
- Hoka Rincon
- Asics EvoRide
- Asics NoosaTri 13
Probably a whole bunch of others but I can’t rack my brain anymore.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 5:17 am to jordan21210
Thanks. I'm just trying to narrow the list down before I go try a bunch on. 
Posted on 6/23/21 at 6:22 am to jordan21210
Of the shoes you listed, the ones of note are the Speed (great shoe), Razor three (great shoe, durability is trash), Rebel (great shoe).
The Endorphin Pro is the best shoe I’ve run in this year, maybe ever.
Of the others you mentioned that I have owned, speed elite (might be the worst shoe I’ve ever owned for durability and speed. It’s just a bad shoe), atreyu (the Artist is easily the worst shoe I’ve ran in this year).
If anyone out there is a pure heel or mid heel striker like me (statistics say 80 percent are), the pro does everything you wish Nike did for you IMO.
The Endorphin Pro is the best shoe I’ve run in this year, maybe ever.
Of the others you mentioned that I have owned, speed elite (might be the worst shoe I’ve ever owned for durability and speed. It’s just a bad shoe), atreyu (the Artist is easily the worst shoe I’ve ran in this year).
If anyone out there is a pure heel or mid heel striker like me (statistics say 80 percent are), the pro does everything you wish Nike did for you IMO.
Posted on 6/23/21 at 7:04 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
I can vouch for the Rincon - loved the shoe, but it’s a narrow fit and won’t last more than 200 miles.
I also have the trail version of the NB 1400v6, don’t run in it a ton but it’s a really comfortable and fast shoe.
I also have the trail version of the NB 1400v6, don’t run in it a ton but it’s a really comfortable and fast shoe.
Posted on 7/27/21 at 9:05 am to jordan21210
Wife got me a pair of Nike Invincible as an early birthday present last weekend. Did 15 miles in them on Sunday and felt great. They feel like running on a sponge landing on top of a trampoline.
I am concerned that the ZoomX will not hold up over time though. The guy at the running store showed me his after ~250 miles and the outsole looked to be in good shape but the foam looked to be breaking down.
I am concerned that the ZoomX will not hold up over time though. The guy at the running store showed me his after ~250 miles and the outsole looked to be in good shape but the foam looked to be breaking down.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:22 pm to LSU Patrick
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I can run in 0 drop, but I wouldn't mind a little bit of a wedge (up to 12mm) for speedier workouts and races. I am open to either a flat or something with a little more cushion. I am a light runner with a midfoot strike and no over or under pronation issues, so I can get away with a lot. For reference, I am running in Nike React Miler for my longer runs, altra paradigm for my recovery runs, and using my altra escalantes (currently at about 1000 miles of use) for my faster runs.
Maybe try the Brooks Hyperion tempo. I wouldn’t pay full retail though. I’ve seen various websites have 20-25% off coupons that didn’t exclude them.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 8:21 am to ks_nola
quote:
code for 20% at saucony.com. even appears to work on Pro and Speed 2.
20OFF-TCH-668-823
update
this one is for 25%
FM9-OS1-JJR-569
anyone have an updated code? thanks in advance.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 12:19 pm to 632627
not the same deal but you can get endorphin pro on jackrabbit for $114. use this code SGRJE83
Posted on 8/7/21 at 12:30 pm to ks_nola
Helluva deal for the pro. Wish they had something similar for the speed, it just works better for me.
Posted on 8/7/21 at 12:35 pm to ks_nola
Thanks for the code. Buying another pair now that I’m retiring my second pair of speeds at 400. Pro is the superior shoe and can do every type of run IMO. 
Posted on 8/7/21 at 7:01 pm to BurtReynoldsMustache
I splurged a bit on some Nike Air Zoom Tempo NEXT% today.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 6:55 am to LSU Patrick
Let us know how they are. You are the first on the board to buy a pair. I wanted some until I ran into issues with the Alpha. Really wish I could wear Nike, but I just can’t get a pair to work for me. :(
Posted on 8/8/21 at 7:27 am to BurtReynoldsMustache
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Really wish I could wear Nike, but I just can’t get a pair to work for me.
the one thing for me about Nike is i cant get the sizing right in any shoe. there hasnt been one nike that i've put on where it fit perfect without any tinkering.
toebox is barely long/wide enough in size 9 for any of the shoes i've tried (alphafly, vaporfly, pegasus, infinity run) but if i wear thin socks i get heel slip.
9.5 is too big unless i'm wearing ridiculously thick thorlo socks.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 11:59 am to 632627
You and me are in the same boat. High arch narrow feet; there’s not a Nike shoe that won’t heel slip on me in a 9. They all pull on my achilles. I still think the Alpha is one of the biggest marketing coups of all time. That shoe is a turd, but people (me included) couldn’t wait to pay for those injury machines.
Posted on 8/8/21 at 1:27 pm to 632627
I think a half size up actually fits my feet perfectly in Nike. I resisted wearing Nike for several years for several reasons, but I have just accepted that they fit well on my feet. I do well with Altra and okay with ASICS. I have not tried brooks or saucony and probably should, but I don’t buy a lot of shoes like some people do, so it makes sense for me to play it safe.
I went out for short run this morning after the rain stopped. I did a few strides and a couple of hill sprints. My early impressions of the zoom tempos is that they are not everyday shoes. I was not expecting them to be, so I am fine with that. They felt a little clunky during g my 1-mile easy warmup pace. When I let loose on the strides and hill sprints, though, they felt great! I have never worn shoes that actually felt like they propel me forward and return more energy than I expend. I must say that it felt fun, and I can’t wait to use them for my track workouts and races. I don’t plan on wearing them more than once a week, so I should be able to get 3+ years out of them too. I’ll update again next week.
If you are considering trying them out, now is probably a good time, because they are on clearance on running warehouse for 159. I bought mine at Scheels for 149.
I went out for short run this morning after the rain stopped. I did a few strides and a couple of hill sprints. My early impressions of the zoom tempos is that they are not everyday shoes. I was not expecting them to be, so I am fine with that. They felt a little clunky during g my 1-mile easy warmup pace. When I let loose on the strides and hill sprints, though, they felt great! I have never worn shoes that actually felt like they propel me forward and return more energy than I expend. I must say that it felt fun, and I can’t wait to use them for my track workouts and races. I don’t plan on wearing them more than once a week, so I should be able to get 3+ years out of them too. I’ll update again next week.
If you are considering trying them out, now is probably a good time, because they are on clearance on running warehouse for 159. I bought mine at Scheels for 149.
This post was edited on 8/8/21 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 8/8/21 at 1:57 pm to LSU Patrick
I’m really excited that you are excited about them. The shoe game has certainly changed for the better. I kinda hate running, but I love running epiphanies. Best to you; time to get fast, Patrick.
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