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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer

Posted on 7/10/20 at 3:37 am to
Posted by LucidDream69
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 3:37 am to
yesterday i found out that the gym i train at does not have weights that are calibrated (hope this is the right english term). so, weights that are supposed to be 20 kg sometimes are 19.1, sometimes 19.7 etc.

is it still a good idea to use micro loading? because obviously, with this kind of weights, any kind of systematic progression (with or without micro loading) is more like gambling. other progressions like reverse pyramid or double progression should work better in this situation, right?

or better to just keep going and know that there may be some variance yet that it is not too important ,and not get hung up on this?

any experiences, and is this even important?
Posted by burgeman
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 1:49 pm to
Most weights aren't calibrated unless specifically bought. Just lift what it says on the plate and keep progressing.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 5:53 pm to
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What he said
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
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Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:48 am to
I've been doing DC calf raises on a smith machine and now that the weight is getting higher ive noticed a tingling in the bottom of my left foot near my toes when im under the load. Also when I finish the set my hand eye coordination is slightly off. I'll reach for the plates or my earbuds and slightly miss lol. Does anyone else have this issue? I assume it has something to do with having a load on my spine that long and the nerves are under stress. Could my technique be wrong? Should I switch to single legs with dumbbells?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/18/20 at 12:51 pm to
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Yeti_Chaser


I would stop and switch to leg press machine when doing them. What you describe can't be good.
Posted by DarkSk0ll
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Posted on 7/19/20 at 1:51 pm to
Just read Chris Hemsworth and his Stunt double also do FM Bodyweight work: “Twenty push-ups and 20 squats on the hour, every hour, for your working day. We did from 8am to 6pm, so that's 200 push-ups and 200 squats across the day.”
Posted by LucidDream69
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 12:15 pm to
hay anyone here tried incorporating overcoming isometrics additionally to the GSLP routine, or on "off-days"?

i feel it may be a good idea, should not take up too much regeneration and is good for boosting strength.

i aim at at least 2-3 sets every few days for push and pull muscles, biceps, triceps, shoulders, not lower body that much.

just not sure how to do it best, before, after, or as part of a routine, or on my additional bodyweight day. any ideas or experiences? or could this be rather contraproductive?
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

just not sure how to do it best, before, after, or as part of a routine, or on my additional bodyweight day. any ideas or experiences? or could this be rather contraproductive?


Over coming iso metrics is a great thing, but I would ask, are you to that point yet? It's something that shows be kept in the tool bag when easier methods have already been used and no longer work.

Have you had to reset multiple times on one lift? Have you used variants or added volume to overcome the plateau? Have you exhausted FM methods? If so go ahead, if not, use those first.
Posted by LucidDream69
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/23/20 at 2:00 pm to
ok thanks makes sense. i assumed it would be a good idea to do all of this concurrently, like adding isometric micro-workouts.
Posted by LucidDream69
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 6:48 am to
once again, i feel like changing my workout to another system. even though i also know this is a classical trap. i wanted to do 531 building the monolith. then decided to stick to greyskull even though with slightly different variables. simply since it works. now i just read dinosaur training and this looks cool also. can't train them all

how do you guys here reconcile this, meaning wanting to change routines? different templates, yet always sticking to the basics?
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:44 am to
I haven't had this issue lately because the type of equipment I have access to keeps changing because of covid and having to relocate for work which is forcing me to change my routines. I try to switch between cut/bulk phases when I do have to change my routine. One of the good things about greyskull is you can modify the plug ins if you're just getting bored with it.

I also enjoy reading about different programs and it makes me want to try them all. The only way to do that is to keep lifting consistently for a really really long time
This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 9:05 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

LucidDream69


How long have you been on greyskull?

I reconcile it by usually doing 8-12 week blocks if I have the urge.

Currently I don't have a barbell and rack while I'm building my new house so I just pick a challenge and try doing that.

But in general, do something for a while and if you get the urge switch to something else. Can't go wrong with 531 or dinosaur training.
Posted by LucidDream69
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/25/20 at 1:20 am to
quote:

How long have you been on greyskull?

I reconcile it by usually doing 8-12 week blocks if I have the urge.


yeah this time did 8 weeks for sure. even longer before the gyms closed. before that, for months.

quote:

But in general, do something for a while and if you get the urge switch to something else. Can't go wrong with 531 or dinosaur training.


yeah this is what makes sense to me, too. since its always about basics, bench, deadlift, press, squat, chins etc. in any good system, i feel continuing to do them within a different system (like more or less volume, different weekly sets etc.) should be ok since i still focus on getting stronger with those, always
Posted by LucidDream69
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/25/20 at 4:38 am to
just to clarify, i have been doing greyskull type of workouts for some years by now, on and off though
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/25/20 at 7:38 am to
Yea just pick a system that is based on similar principals.
Posted by LucidDream69
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/26/20 at 8:53 am to
yeah. i wanted to do one of the greyskull variations from this thread, did one workout yesterday, then decided that i gonna try dinosaur training. it simply draws me, which is how i choose what to train.

simple setup, like Monday - Weights A (dinosaur training principles), Wednesday - Bodyweight Friday - Weights 2 (dinosaur pr.), Sunday Bodyweight.

And train all of those hard, while also abbreviated, focusing on basics, as well as a few strongman moves, neck, grip to make it complete. seems very balanced and i get a nice combination of weights and calisthenics. also will check how heavy singles work for me, after training in other rep ranges for quite some time now.

decided to continue daily pushups and chins, brooks also advocates this in his dinosaur bodyweight training books so why not.

so, basically not too different from what i do now, just slightly different parameters and less volume and less supplementals.
Posted by LucidDream69
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 10:22 am to
hey i compiled useful stuff from this thread, just finished the last page. if you like, and it's ok, i can put it on google drive. i find it useful as reference. its quite some pages by now, hand selected content.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 10:32 am to
Sure, just post the link in here and I will add to the first page.
Posted by xGeauxLSUx
United States of Atrophy
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Posted on 7/29/20 at 12:36 pm to
Found this thread last week. Started Greyskull for 1st time. 2nd week in and I like it so far.
Posted by LucidDream69
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 1:22 am to
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Sure, just post the link in here and I will add to the first page.


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