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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer

Posted on 11/23/18 at 3:49 pm to
Posted by Azazello
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Posted on 11/23/18 at 3:49 pm to
Checking in after 3 weeks. I'm really enjoying the workouts and I am definitely noticing some small changes.

My main struggle is getting in the bw stuff during the day. I work in an office (wear coat and slacks) so it's out of the question while I'm at work. I am trying to get in a bunch of pull ups and push ups on my non-lift days (when I also train BJJ)

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 11/23/18 at 5:39 pm to
Try the ladder method before work, after and before bed.
Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:02 am to
What 77 said; do ladders in the morning or evening. Do them everyday.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 10:36 am to
I’ve been doing StrongLifts 5x5 this week just to get back in the swing of things. I have one more session planned for tomorrow. The 15 sets of squats is just too much right now

Next week, I am going to start the following Greyskull plan:

Sunday:
Bench - 2x5, 1x5+
Squat - 2x5, 1x5+
Sit-ups - 3x35

Tuesday
Press - 2x5, 1x5+
Deadlift - 2x5, 1x5+
Chin-ups - 3xAMRAP

Thursday
Bench - 2x5, 1x5+
Squat - 2x5, 1x5+
Pull-ups - 3xAMRAP

Jog or light cycle on days off, maybe Tuesday and Friday.

Progress 10 lbs per week on squat and deadlift, and 5 lbs per week on bench and press.

What do y’all think?
This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 10:54 am
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 11:45 am to
Sit-ups?

Why not just do the strength/hypertrophy routine he outlines in the book.

Bench
curls
Squat

Press
Chins
Dead’s

Bench
Curls
Squats

Also do not forget the most important aspect of this program is the homework.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28513 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 12:58 pm to
Can you give me an example of the “submaximal” frequency “homework?”
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Can you give me an example of the “submaximal” frequency “homework?”


Sure. Do as many push-ups and chins as you can in 2min. Take 50% and work it into sets distributed throughout the day. For example, say you can do 80 push-ups in 2min, do 5 sets of 40 each day M-F adding a set each week until you reach 10 sets. After that point increase the reps 1-2 and go back to 5 sets and work back up.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 3:30 pm to
Rather than the BW exercises on the workout days, I could do:

Day I: BB curls, 3x8
Day II: Cable pressdowns. 3x8
Day III: Calf raises, 3x10 (just do it from the squat rack after squatting)

What do you think about that?

Is there a barbell tricep exercise I am missing?
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 4:36 pm to
I am by no means an expert when it comes to GSLP. I’m only on week 14 as a disclaimer. I will defer to lsu777 on this, but I don’t think there’s a reason Atleast JP doesn’t lay it out in the literature that I aware of why you wouldn’t do homework on lifting days.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28513 posts
Posted on 11/28/18 at 7:09 pm to
What about using burpees as my “homework?” What system should I use for that? How do I figure out how many to do?

I’m just gonna do phrak’s grayskull.

This post was edited on 11/28/18 at 7:28 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/28/18 at 9:40 pm to
Jesus talk about over thinking things. Phraks is nothing more then the base plus rows which suck for somebody just starting out.

I'll lay this out as I have time this weekend. Had a death in the family and have been up for 48 hours, going to bed.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28513 posts
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:59 pm to
I am sorry to hear about the death in your family. Condolences.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28513 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 10:57 am to
Here is my greyskull

Sunday:

Bench/military press (alternating) - 2x5, 1x5+
Squat - 2x5, 1x5+
Barbell curls/chin-ups (alternating) - 2x10 or 2xAMRAP

Tuesday:

Bench/press (alternating) - 2x5, 1x5+
Deadlift - 1x5+
Barbell curls/chin-ups (alternating) -2x10 or 2xAMRAP

Thursday:

See Sunday

Homework:

Sunday - Friday, push-up frequency method (got a long way to go on this front)

Monday, Wednesday, Friday - burpees and other cardio. Probably start with sets of 10 burpees and work my way to doing 100 each day. I want to complete the burpee villain challenge and would appreciate some programming help

Thanks.
This post was edited on 12/2/18 at 6:21 pm
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 1:11 pm to
Your program looks good. It’s pretty much the exact strength/hypertrophy program JP lays out in the book. Are you planning on doing the curls and chins as the third exercise or did you just list it that way? It doesn’t really matter IMO, but I think JP prefers to leave the squats and deads for last so you leave nothing on the table.

Biceps benefit a lot from volume so don’t limit yourself at 10. It should be 10-15 rep range.

Lastly, JP made the program extremely flexible for a reason, but I believe the preferred homework routine in your instance would be Sunday-Thursday frequency pushups and chins. Friday and Saturday completely off from both gym lifting and homework. You’ll see especially starting out that FM homework will definitely affect your lifts until you get used to the additional volume, but pays huge dividends on aesthetics and strength.

I don’t have any advice on the conditioning programs for the burpee challenge. I’m going on week 15 and my conditioning routine outside of fasted walking is Wednesday I do rowing machine and Saturday I run 2-4 miles depending. I use the traditional MWF workout format.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28513 posts
Posted on 12/2/18 at 2:24 pm to
I just listed it incorrectly.

Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37970 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 5:59 am to
Looks good

burpee challenge

If the burpees are your only form of conditioning, do the linked program twice daily.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 5:59 am
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 4:33 pm to
Started week 15 today. Feel really good after my deload week 12. U fortunately I will be in Mexico for week 16 so I intend to greyskull reset 10% again for week 17. I’m trying to look more long term and this won’t set me back if I look at it that way.
This post was edited on 12/3/18 at 4:34 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37970 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:24 pm to
quote:

I am sorry to hear about the death in your family. Condolences.


Thank you brother. Father in law was an amazing man and will be missed by the whole lake Charles community and today was a testament of that. Over 1500 people between the wake and the funeral including the mayor and other.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
37970 posts
Posted on 12/3/18 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Started week 15 today. Feel really good after my deload week 12. U fortunately I will be in Mexico for week 16 so I intend to greyskull reset 10% again for week 17. I’m trying to look more long term and this won’t set me back if I look at it that way.


It's exactly the way you should look at it. This is also why the greyskull method doesn't schedule deloads, life tends to have a way of correcting that for most people. Life happens and tends to cause unscheduled deloads
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
28513 posts
Posted on 12/4/18 at 9:38 am to
The chin-ups are hrd, especially after shoulder press. I struggled to even get 3 or 4, and I’m sure my form was bad. My arms were blasted.

Any replacement exercise you recommend?
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