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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer

Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:37 pm to
Dude seriously it's all over a lot of forums, called gomad. I'm like you, it's kind of "who in the frick thinks that's a good idea".

But Mark rippetoe of starting strength really pushes the gomad diet.


And honestly the reason the thread is so long is because I was trying to explain the theory behind each item and the thought process of it. The program is very simple and could be laid out in one post but most people want to know why.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:39 pm to
Yes, on the non hip hinge days(deadlift) days so days 1&3. Actually do them after squats of you are doing them heavy as they can be tiring.
Posted by Tman928
Member since Jun 2013
66 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:48 pm to
Thanks!

Enjoying it so far. In week 5 and haven’t stalled yet though I’m getting close on the shoulder press. Previous bench max was 230. Did 196 nine times today. Previous deadlift max was 330; did 265 11 times today. Hoping that means I’m progressing but I guess I’m not sure until I get closer to my max numbers.

Doing MWF. Burpee challenge 6 days a week. 50-100 push-ups on lift days. Non-lift days I’m doing 200-230 push-ups (sets of 13) and 50-90 chins (sets of 6, then 3).

I do two to three conditioning sessions about 7-15 minutes each week as well. I make up my own routine - usually involves 50 lb sandbag, slam ball, Sledge hammer and jump rope.

I’m gaining weight unintentionally now. Going to tighten up the diet soon.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162190 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

Dude seriously it's all over a lot of forums, called gomad. I'm like you, it's kind of "who in the frick thinks that's a good idea".

Oddly enough someone on the rant brought it up in a Brennan weight gain thread. I don't read a lot of body building formums. I have to assume this is for bulking? I don't think my stomach could take it.

quote:


And honestly the reason the thread is so long is because I was trying to explain the theory behind each item and the thought process of it. The program is very simple and could be laid out in one post but most people want to know why

It looks very informative. I was just joking.
Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 11:12 am to


Thanks
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 1:59 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:02 pm to
Send me one at tdlsu777. Gmail
Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:58 pm to
Sent
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Bailey25
Member since Nov 2017
82 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 8:14 pm to
Hey LSU and everyone, just wanted to hold myself accountable and let you know I’m still hitting it hard and making progress. You’ve helped me immensly and there is a ton of great information and advice on here. My back is still holding up so far. The negatives on chin ups are getting much easier and I’m hardly getting sore from them and I feel like I’m getting close to finally doing unassisted chin ups. I’m up to about 350-400 push ups weekly at 7x10 frequency sets a day and doing them 5 days a week. Admittedly, I have gravitated somewhat back to just the normal GSLP base program instead of rotating lifts just so I can keep it simple and focus on bringing the poundages up. I am doing the rotating lifts with the squat and Hip belt squat though to keep my lower back recovery a priority. I’m doing the Dr. Sears PACE method of cardio similar to intervals 2-3 x a week as well. It’s only 12 minutes each session. I use a spinning bike or nearby hill for that. This type of old school program with low volume and an emphasis on strength works everyone, keep at it!!
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 8:16 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30949 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 8:59 pm to
Glad to hear you are hitting it hard still.and yea rotating lifts sounds awesome and it is but sometimes the simpliest approach works best.

Keep at it big dog.
Posted by BadMrK
Addis, La
Member since Dec 2016
141 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:49 am to
I've been on Phrak's variant of GSLP for 5 weeks. I chose Phrak's because it seemed very simple and not very time consuming and I am pretty much a beginner. I've been enjoying it but I'm wondering if I should change to a different variant. I'm worried that Phraks is to TOO bare bones and wondering if my time would be better spent on a different variant. I'm interested in switching to GSLP for aesthetics. Should I make that change now while I'm only 5 weeks in or stay my course?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30949 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:54 am to
stay the course until after you finish week 8. Phraks is not too bare bones for a beginner especially if you are doing the frequency method body weight pushups and chins.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38405 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 2:51 pm to
I'm trying to wrap my head around this entire thing so I can start and I have a question. When I see "2x5, 1x5+" I know that means 2 sets of 5 and a 3rd set of 5 plus however many reps you can get until failure, but when I see just "1x5+" that means im doing the warmup sets until I get to working weight then final set?

I've got other questions, but I am trying to sort through this entire thread and trying to figure the basic shite first.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30949 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:23 pm to
Yes a 1x5+ would be warm up and hit the weight with the most intensity you can for as many reps as possible. But you should only be moving in that direction from 2x5,1x5+ after you have made extensive progress i.e. 1-1.5+ years on the lp.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30949 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 8:23 pm to
Fire off with any other questions please
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14438 posts
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:34 pm to
Should I not be doing 2x5, 1x5+ for every main lift?

Guess I should've read over the book again.
Posted by numptythrubbers
Member since Feb 2018
246 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 12:12 am to
Could you do a brief write up of Swole for fat loss and/or bulking?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30949 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 8:34 am to
yes you should. Only those that have completely maxed out and are stalled for a long time, even when rotating lifts should move the 1x5+ and they honestly wont be on that very long before progress stalls again. From there we move to either reverse pyramid training or rest pause.

but stick to 2x5,1x5+ for as long as possible, deadlifts are still 1x5+ only after you warm up. That is the only exercise you do 1x5+ on as multiple sets of deads is very very taxing.

Only exception would be squats, if you want to persue the villain challenge for bw squat x 50, replace the normal 2x5, 1x5+ with the directions in the article. That is the only change.

Honestly everyone should stick to one of the basic templates, for atleast 6 months. Add conditioning as appropriate conditioning to reach your goals. Tweak your diet to reach your goals. From there, you can play a little, but don't branch too far out.
Posted by Bailey25
Member since Nov 2017
82 posts
Posted on 4/17/18 at 10:10 pm to
One follow up question, as I keep progressing with the chin negatives, what should progression look like. I’m at about 6-7 negatives with about a minutes rest 3-4 times a week either after my workout and or at night by itself. I still am doing band assisted chin ups daily only because I’ve had success with the bands and I feel it’s helping me get closer to unassisted especially as I move to skinnier bands.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30949 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:05 am to
Once you can do 5 negatives with a out 3 second negative you should be able to do a pullup. You should be able to do sets of one from there and working your way to more.
Posted by Bailey25
Member since Nov 2017
82 posts
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:39 am to
Sorry, I don’t quite understand what you said?? I’d say I lower myself to a count of 5-10 seconds now and I’m able to hold in a static position on way down if I wanted to.. I do about 5-7 negatives with about a minutes rest between each one
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