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re: The Greyskull Methods- A Primer

Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:33 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:33 pm to
More sets can be helpful in two ways

When trying to gain muscle and getting the volume in when you are weak.

Second is with burpees and trying to get fatloss ramped up. Small mini intense sets are very beneficial. I usually do about 8-10 sets in a day when doing FM method but have gone as high as 20 sets when bulking with only beneficial effects.
Posted by numptythrubbers
Member since Feb 2018
246 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 2:24 am to
So far more sets / more volume on the pushups/chinups has meant more muscle 'swoleness' for me!

30 sets may seem excessive but it's what I'm moving towards at the moment (not done daily though).

I can only imagine how powerful 30 sets of burpees would be too.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30961 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 5:21 am to
With daily work, you are just trying to get as much volume in as possible without causing cns fatigue. And it's a fine line and you have to work up to that volume.

With the burpees the more sets the better if spread out like the daily push-ups and chins. You are creating mini metabolism ramp up sessions that does have an EPOC effect(post exercise calorie burn). So let's say the metabolism is elevated for 20 min after each burpee set, well if you do 20 sets during the day evenly spread out....well you get the picture.
Posted by Bailey25
Member since Nov 2017
82 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:14 pm to
I agree you’re getting volume in with body weight work but just gotta be careful with tendinitis issues is my only concern
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14440 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:11 am to
Day 1

Press
Yates row
Neutral grip chins
Facepull/lateral raises
Squat
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30961 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 11:15 am to
Looks good. Don't focus too much on rows though. I mean if you are going to keep them in, attach the shite out of them, but I'm rows are the most over prescribed exercise and outside of seal rows is completely over rated. This is due to people inadvertently cheating at heavier weights or as they progress or when they get tired.

You never know if you truly got stronger or you just used better leverage this time. Johnny pain talks about this andartin Berkham has been harping on this the last few weeks.
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14440 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 12:06 pm to
Haven't trained legs in almost a month.

I'll never let that happen again. Squats weren't fun.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30961 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 12:40 pm to
you gonna be doing wobble in two days
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14440 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 12:49 pm to
What's a good total amount of pushups to start with this week?

300? 400? 500?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30961 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 1:28 pm to
100 per day
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14440 posts
Posted on 3/26/18 at 8:40 pm to
Thoughts on lowering calories and/or reducing carbs significantly on non-lifting days?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30961 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 6:59 am to
You can cycle carbs down to 50g a day on non lifting days, keep everything else the same. Keep calories on lifting days to a -10% deficit or less if doing this.

Add more burpeess if you want faster progress or extend the morning walks.
Posted by adidaman27
Stafford, TX
Member since Jan 2009
18 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 10:23 am to
Thanks so much for all the info you've posted! I know it probably takes alot of time to research and/or come up with all of this.

I just finished going through the RFL diet program for 6 wks a 2nd time and I liked all the elements from this program you suggested I incorporate (fasted walking, exercises, etc.). Looking forward to starting GSLP soon.

I read through every link you posted so far and I'm towards the end of the GSLP book. I was wondering if you'd mind giving one more "anonymous S.O.B" access to your drive so I could do some more reading? Thanks!
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30961 posts
Posted on 3/27/18 at 2:00 pm to
What's the intitials on the email?
Posted by adidaman27
Stafford, TX
Member since Jan 2009
18 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:06 am to
My bad. I guess "J.M."? Email address is like my ID here. Thanks again for the generosity!
Posted by dallasaggie
Dallas
Member since May 2013
949 posts
Posted on 3/28/18 at 10:24 pm to
Well certain things are finally sinking in ... 2 that stick out ... pushing heavier weight is making me stronger and I’ve noticed that even my limited use of body weight exercises is making a difference.

I need a little help in balancing my daily work without causing cns fatigue. Obviously I’m doing a lesser amount of pushups on chest/arms days. And I don’t have a chin up bar but am going to get one. I am doing solid form pushups - chest to the ground-locking arms out. Around 20 per session - 3-6x per day. I’m feeling it a little my last couple. What is the maximum pushups per day should I end up striving for and how do I truly tell about fatigue?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
30961 posts
Posted on 3/29/18 at 4:54 am to
The sets should of FM pushups should never be hard. Its not the total reps that is getting you, it's the reps per set. So if you are doing on average 5*20 let's back that down to 7*15 or even 10*10. Add 2 reps every two weeks.

Also to help fatigue let's back that down to 5 days a week with a break after the first 3 days and again the last day of each week
Posted by nightwing21
Member since Mar 2018
6 posts
Posted on 4/2/18 at 11:43 pm to
I just started the GSLP program. Appreciate all the information you have provided for us. It would be greatly appreciated, if I could be granted access to your drive as well, to further continue reading and research. Thank You!
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2127 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 5:18 pm to
So just wanted to post my plan. I am 32 6'4" 192 lbs. I lifted weights alot until 2012. Pretty much only done body weight workouts/p90x routines until 18 months ago. I started stronglifts then and have done it 3 days a week since. I have recently just hit a huge wall with it that I couldn't get past so I decided to look for something different. Stumbled across this thread and it sounded like exactly what I needed. Today was day one. I dropped about 20 to 25 lbs from each of my lifts from my last day of stronglifts.


Today I did bench, barbell row, squats, dips, and incline dumbbell press.

Pros:

1. It really helps having the amrap at the end. I feel like that is going to help break through the wall

2. Doing squats towards the end definitely had me fresher

3. I was done in about 45 minutes as apposed to 90 minutes my last day of stronglifts


Cons:

Really the only thing is the app. The stronglifts app is just about perfect and works well with my Android Wear watch. The workout trainer app is ok, but not nearly as good.



So my goals are to add about 10-15 lbs of lean muscle. I have lost 10 lbs since January as my wife wanted to do Paleo, so I am trying to gain that back in muscle. I would also like to define my chest more. From the front my chest looks fine, but from the side it looks slightly saggy unless I flex. I am going to try to really focus this program on chest for at least the first couple of months.

So any tips or notes anyone has I would gladly accept. Although I consider myself to be a pretty fit person, I am by no means a weight lifting expert.
Posted by _spinnerbait_
Member since Feb 2018
19 posts
Posted on 4/5/18 at 7:22 pm to
Have you tried the bodybuilding.com app? They might have your routine on there already (search for greyskull). If not you can spend a few minutes on the website and make one that syncs to your app.

Also, if you have fat on your chest you probably want to be cutting calories
This post was edited on 4/5/18 at 7:24 pm
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