re: Semaglutide injections

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TigerGman

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You said that you were done with this thread.

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is there a better length of time?

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Absolutely

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its no different than TRT. both are just replacements for naturally occurring hormones and if you take too much...there can be issues, not bad but slight issues

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Totally agree.

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i hate how yall demonize it. Its like demonizing creatine or protein powder or real TRT or even use of steroids

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Thank you.

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This is easily the dumbest thing you’ve ever said

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creatine is a natural occurring amino acid derivative produces in the body....glp is a naturally occurring hormone in the body. when supplemented to bring levels up to optimal, your performance increases

only difference is one is legal over the counter, the other requires a script

as far as the protein powder and even creatine comment...you are misunderstanding what I am saying. Many still look at those as a type of drug. Sure those in the fitness industry dont, but many, especially the older crowd tend to think of them as a type of steroid. if you have ever interacted with the typical S LA dad with a big arse fat gut that has a son in high school....the phrase "legal steroids" is common.

sure its from a place of ignorance, but still said none the less.

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You don’t piss out excess GLP-1

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you are right, its why i said its really more akin to TRT. you are raising a suppressed hormone in the body

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Many are stupid, I don’t know what the point of considering them in this conversation is

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because that is who/what i was talking about with the protein/creatine comment and trying to give context which is lost many times on here

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Which is grossly overprescribed

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we agree there. I agree glp1 is over prescribed. but in the end...its kind of whatever helps get people motivated to get their asses in shape.

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Then were all good. I never said GLP’s or TRT have no use, just like any other pharmaceutical. What I think is a disgrace is physicians like Jose will take a 15 minute phone call from someone who’s not even their patient, it’s their first interaction, and prescribe someone a hormone therapy. There are tried and true non pharmaceutical interventions that work with ZERO side effects for 95%+ of the population. And I’m just never going to agree with the defeatist reductionist attitude that it’s “too hard”

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we agree on that but to be fair...for like 98% of the population...if they stay at minimum effective dose and use the GLP as a kick start, not crutch...there are zero side effects

only problem is like 90% of those getting it prescribed do not do that.

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I don’t believe that. I don’t not believe it either, I’m just not comfortable having a definitive opinion on it either way. Which means at this time, I’m not in favor of certainly over prescribing GLP’s

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i shouldnt have said zero, should have said minimum side effects. you still get some gastric issues but most can be controlled very easy by cleaning up the diet

most horror stories you hear about are people trying to eat the same diet as before...only thing is they dont tell you...glp-1 as a hormone will punish you if you continue to try and eat like before

by punish you, i mean it will make you nauseous and diarrhea if you continue to eat high processed, high fat foods.

the key to avoiding that....stop eating like an a-hole


if you go read reddit its like a comedy section. people complaining because they get sick after their traditional sunday "feast" or how every time they eat pizza now they get sick or how if they dip food in ranch it makes them sick......you never read about....oh I have been having lean ground beef and rice or grilled chicken breast + rice and its making me sick

and almost all of them are saying...I lost 10lbs on the low dose, 15 more on middle dose and now im at the top dose and dropping weight very quickly but I get sick when eating my favorite foods lol

there is never mention of macros, protein, overall caloric intake as far as tracking everything, very little in terms of lifting etc

but done right, glp1 can be a god send.

hell huge % of the serious bodybuilders are using Reta to clean up blood work and help during cuts.

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This isn’t an endorsement of an interventions efficacy

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didnt say it was

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In the short term

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long term too and we know this. you know how long its been in use, just trying to be contrarian and try and rile me up




today is more about love mingo. you may drive me crazy sometimes, but no more arguing from me with you. Really hope you and your family have an amazing christmas. Enjoy the younger years, really are magical. :cheers: