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re: Recommend me a diet/fitness plan Update 1

Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:46 am to
Posted by Bow dude72
Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:46 am to
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whiskey over ice


I believe i need to stop my whiskey. I usually have about 6 drinks a week.
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3256 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:09 am to
6 a week isn’t all that bad. Whiskey is about 70 calories an ounce. That’s 420 calories ( ) a week. But try cutting it out Sunday through Thursday or something like that. Treat yourself on the weekend if you’ve hit your calories all week. Also, google “leangains alcohol.” It helps not to drink heavily while eating fatty foods as the fat can more easily be stored as body fat.
Posted by Dandaman
Louisiana
Member since May 2017
704 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:37 am to
I'm sure I'll get downvotes, but I would recommend Opatvia for you.

Its easy and the weight falls off very fast.

The hard part of the diet is when you hit target weight and get off the pre-packaged stuff - that is when the real challenge begins, but at least you will be 100 lbs lighter at that point and in a much better spot to start excercising.

People hate on this diet, but the truth is it is the easiest one out there due to pre-packaged meals that actually cure the hunger.

Yes it tastes terrible, yes its not as healthy as a whole foods option. Yes its expensive. But your chance of success is much higher on this diet than others, IMO.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31041 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:06 am to
quote:

What's a realistic, healthy rate for weight-loss?

I started 11 months ago near the same weight as OP. Dropped 30 lbs so far while adding muscle. I'd like to be further along, but still extremely happy with progress so far.

Started with walking and weights. Made the mistake of moving to fast and ended up tweaking my knee. Read more on yalls suggestions and moved to a slower progression using a LP method. That has been a game changer. Now 4 days a week, I go for a very brisk walk for 20 min. Go thru my LP weights (40-50 min) and then bike for 35 min. The other 3 days I drop the weights and just bike for 90 min.

(Following guidance of you and other posters here)

To OP:
Take your time eating. Don't enhale your food. You'll notice yourself getting full with less food if you give it time to settle. Also you don't have to make a 'happy plate'. It's okay if you don't eat everything.

Just start moving and going outside more. Turn off the TV and get off the phone.

Just about any physical activity will be an improvement to your current life style.

I'm not trying to sound condescending at all. I was in the same boat as you (still am in some ways). It's hard at first but gets easier. Just have to decide to make the change and stick with it.

Good luck!


thats awesome man. honestly as far as healthy rate of loss...some of that depends on each person but in general 2 lbs per week max, but 0.5-1lbs a week is much more sustainable and that is usually where you have less loose skin in the end.

keep it up man and post if you need motivation
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31041 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Criticism doesn’t bother me at all. I deserve it. I usually am around 240 but I blew up even more this year. I don’t have diabetes I recently done blood work for that.



thats good man. then based on that, lets try this

for now i would start with this the next month or 2

1) 3 meals a day only, no snacks

2) no cokes or alcohol or drinks with calories, zero calorie sodas are fine

3) no 2nds, 1 plate only

4) no fast food

5) when you sit down to eat, no tv, no phone, no distractions, sit down as a family.

6) take a bite, sit you fork down and chew counting to 30, wipe your mouth and take a sip of water. do this for every bite, it will be extremely slow and that is good

-will allow you absorb more nutrients due to chewing your food better

- will allow you brain time to catch up and receive the signal that you are full, so no overeating

7) walk 1 hour every afternoon. can be broken up, but 1 full hour of walking every day

8) 8 full hours of sleep every night. this is as important or more important as anything else. make it a priorty and focus on sleep hygiene. put tape of any electronic lights make the room pitch black and cold and if need be, take low dose melatonin

9) no tv during the week during daylight hours. this will force you to get out and move around and no endless scrolling on social media either. read a book or pick at the garden, work on something, throw the ball with your kid, ride a bike something.

10) twice per week- 5 sets of 10 squats, 5 sets of 5(each leg) lunges, 5 sets of 10 pushups.

good luck man, we are here to help, for support, for motivation and even to help with discpline.

I do understand what you are going through, i allowed myself in 2014 to get up to 243lbs and couldnt tie my shoes without getting out of breath. dropped to 182 from january to july 15th. it can be done and you dont need to do that fast. take your time and slowly develop habits. I already had mine just got out of them for 18months.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7457 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:17 am to
Whats the reasoning for walking backwards?

Also I have a family member who is in a similar situation who wants some guidance. She has diabetes which I know nothing about. Does that change anything for her diet?
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31041 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:19 am to
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Good Thread, let's keep it going.
I'm 52 6' and was 260 when I started. My goal is to get back under 220.
In July, I decided to take a break from drinking.
In August, I figured if I'm not drinking I need to fix my diet so I started 30 days of Carnivore. That went fine and was easier than I thought, although it's tough in how restrictive it is. Of course I could eat ribeye every night.
So far I've dropped about 25 lbs.

Throughout I've lifted around 5 days a week, nothing real heavy working different Muscle groups each time.
4-5 days a week I either do elliptical or ride a bike 30 minutes. I'm limited on cardio because of a bad knee, but just push through.

I'd say start slow and get your eating right. And as others have stated, get moving by walking or something every day.
You can do it, for me the biggest part of it all is getting right mentally.




awesome man. with that knee, you should look into the kneesovertoes program from athletic truth group. their programming will get that fixed up and they offer regressions and progressions for all their movements that can be done by a 85 year old all the way to pro athelete. Ben Patrick the creator test all regressions on his mother who is 70+. if she cant do it, its too advanced as a starting point.

let us know man if you need guidance on the lifting. :cheers:

great job and keep it up
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31041 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 10:22 am to
quote:

6 a week isn’t all that bad. Whiskey is about 70 calories an ounce. That’s 420 calories ( ) a week. But try cutting it out Sunday through Thursday or something like that. Treat yourself on the weekend if you’ve hit your calories all week. Also, google “leangains alcohol.” It helps not to drink heavily while eating fatty foods as the fat can more easily be stored as body fat.




i normally would agree with you on that, but at 290...he needs to cut it out completely for 60 days and get control of everything.

at 6 a week, its not the alcohol but its the lower inhibition from the drinking that could get him.

alcohol can absolutely fit into a healthy lifestyle but there are times where it needs to be cut out.

he needs to do a sober october.
Posted by Athletix
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Member since Dec 2012
5067 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 11:32 am to
If you lower your calorie intake and move more you will lose weight guaranteed. How to do it? LSU777 gave some great pointers and I wouldn't get to caught up on how to optimize this process. You have alot of weight to lose, so any change in those 2 areas will be a positive. I'll give some tips I've used and that have some research backing them.

Make NO food off limits. Anything is ok to eat in moderation. If you go SUPER strict, you'll statistically relapse and kick the diet. Diets at a very high percentage fail, and most people will try 3-4 diets and fail at all of them. IF, IF you really want to change your life for the better, YOU MUST understand calories.

Calories in - Calories out. Less in - more out = you lose weight. Start counting your calories. Don't make a massive change to your diet day 1. Count the calories you eat (Myfitnesspal APP). This is a must IMO for long term change.

Some things I think you can do now to assist in the body transformation.

Walk. Get a step counter, and set an attainable goal. If you're walking 3000 steps a day in your normal movement. Then walk 5000 a day for a week. Bump that up as the weeks go on trying to get to a stable 10000 steps a day as a baseline.

Limit the calories you drink. Sodas are awesome...but they are often the culprit behind the excess calorie intake. Try drinking some flavored water like MIO or diet cokes. Ideally you'll learn to love water again, but some flavor is fine.

Weight training is great, and we should all do it. However, yoga and body movements are great for flexibility and mobility. Flexibility and mobility are what will allow you to sit down on the floor with your grandkids to play and be able to get back up. So, try some youtube videos with very basic stretches and movements. You can search 'obese beginner's workout', there will be plenty of content available to do at home. Simple home workout

It's great to see all the folks chiming in wanting to change their life for the better. It's a worthwhile journey and I wish you all luck. Don't wait until everything is perfect and optimized. Just start moving and creating some attainable goals for yourself. Good luck!
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31041 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

Whats the reasoning for walking backwards?


short answer....better you can walk backwards and be stable, less chance of injury you have when getting older

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Also I have a family member who is in a similar situation who wants some guidance. She has diabetes which I know nothing about. Does that change anything for her diet?



for now...no other than she needs to make sure she eats all of the protein 1st before she eats anything else and honestly semaglutide is a fricking miracle drug. Does have some sides, but i can not recommend that drug enough to get people to get their lives under control and get their blood sugar under control. I find its better for women as they are emotional and frankly many times suck at eating healthy and give into cravings easily.
Posted by lofty
Member since Dec 2019
404 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 12:43 pm to
Best thing you can do for yourself, your kids, your future grandkids is to get on this asap.
You will be a different man at 180 or so, and only you can do it.

Good luck, get at it, stick with it.
If you fail a day or week get back to it.
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7071 posts
Posted on 9/30/22 at 4:54 pm to
one thing that i have a problem with is

"don't let perfection get in the way of progress"

if you screw up your calories for lunch, don't just say frick it for the rest of the day. get back on track.
Posted by Allthatfades
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2014
6698 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 7:45 am to
Second the walking. It’s amazing how much weight one can drop by just walking an hour every day and just being sensible with your eating.
Posted by hob
Member since Dec 2017
2127 posts
Posted on 10/2/22 at 9:43 am to
quote:

Also I have a family member who is in a similar situation who wants some guidance. She has diabetes which I know nothing about. Does that change anything for her diet?



Long story short...

Got a bad case of covid back in February and just never recovered. In fact, I kept getting worse. Went to Dr and was diagnosed with diabetes on May 8.

62 yrs old. 6' 2" 285lb
A1C 12.4
blood glucose 386

He put me on Metformin plus Glimepiride.

After some reading I went low glycemic load eating which turned into Keto.

I learned about insulin resistance so now I walk 1.5 miles every morning.

At my 3 month checkup I had lost 40 lbs, A1C 5.5 and blood glucose 98.

As of this morning I'm down 60 lbs total. I'm off the
glimepiride and my metformin dose is cut in half.

So today

weigh 225 lbs
glucose stays between 90-100
I assume my A1C is still low but won't find out until next month.

It's hard work at first but I find I no longer have cravings for certain foods. It's really important to use the glucose meter and find out which foods impact your blood sugar.
This post was edited on 10/2/22 at 9:50 am
Posted by Bow dude72
Member since Mar 2017
2330 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:30 am to
Alright today is the first day I had to get some shopping done.
Official starting weight is 290.5
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3256 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:38 am to
what diet/fitness plan did you decide to go with?
Posted by Lazy But Talented
Member since Aug 2011
14444 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 6:47 am to
Let’s get to work!
Posted by Bow dude72
Member since Mar 2017
2330 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:28 am to
I decided to go with LSU 777. Im increasing my protein and eating smaller portions of everything else. No sweets or coke. I’m also going to do the hour a day walking and squats. I will limit my whiskey to 1 day a week (LSU football).
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31041 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:42 am to
quote:

I decided to go with LSU 777. Im increasing my protein and eating smaller portions of everything else. No sweets or coke. I’m also going to do the hour a day walking and squats. I will limit my whiskey to 1 day a week (LSU football).


good, just limit you food intake with that whiskey intake. dont ruin a weeks worth of progress by eating like an a-hole while drinking
Posted by lofty
Member since Dec 2019
404 posts
Posted on 10/3/22 at 9:50 am to
Great work Hob, keep it up .

Getting fit is so simple but it hurts along the way!
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