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re: Need Info on TRT
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:01 pm to Uncle JackD
Posted on 1/6/25 at 7:01 pm to Uncle JackD
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The poster above has a total T of 150, no diet or change will get him into optimal testosterone range.
Present
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basically perfected my diet, in the gym 5-6x a week
I’ve always done this. Also generally good cardio, and I eat very well thanks to a great wife that cooks healthily. I have no idea why it’s so low now.
What would be a good starting point for me at my levels?
This post was edited on 1/6/25 at 7:02 pm
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Posted on 1/6/25 at 8:29 pm to meeple
quote:As long as you are getting Testosterone Cypionate, I don't think it matters. You can inject that IM or SubQ.
Does subcutaneous need to be specified in the prescription?
quote:From my research, historically everything was IntraMuscular but SubQ has become very popular recently.
Is there a “standard” injection type?
quote:My total T was too high to get a prescription from my primary care doc so I went the Maximus Tribe route. They will prescribe for people in the "normal" T range whereas my primary care and insurance will not. Likely no benefit going this route since you qualify as having low T
Also where are you getting yours and what are your dosages?
Posted on 1/7/25 at 7:19 am to TigerTatorTots
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As long as you are getting Testosterone Cypionate, I don't think it matters. You can inject that IM or SubQ.
correct. not just test cypionate though, any of the esters work. Oil based was developed for IM injections but can be used by most Subq. there is a chance you start developing polyps where the oil doesnt absorb very well and starts causing a red reaction and bump and possibly some bruising. Some people get them, some dont. For many it happens with injections that are more volume so keep volume very low and freq high
I get these now but didnt for years and used subq. I dont always get them either. Most dont.
quote:
From my research, historically everything was IntraMuscular but SubQ has become very popular recently.
correct, started with some studies showing subq gave better results. you can google t-nation and subq injections to read more
Posted on 1/7/25 at 7:36 am to Uncle JackD
i mean....maybe but in the end....just focus on getting it to the upper normal range or right outside the normal range and it wont really matter.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 7:45 am to lsu777
Roger that
Had a full panel resulted yesterday and all markers improved, I was stoked. Lipid panel, H/H, liver enzymes. All perfect. Drew a b12 and VitD for shits and giggles. B12 was upper range of normal and VD was lower end of normal so I’ll be getting back on the 5000iu/day
Had a full panel resulted yesterday and all markers improved, I was stoked. Lipid panel, H/H, liver enzymes. All perfect. Drew a b12 and VitD for shits and giggles. B12 was upper range of normal and VD was lower end of normal so I’ll be getting back on the 5000iu/day
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:38 am to Uncle JackD
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Had a full panel resulted yesterday and all markers improved, I was stoked. Lipid panel, H/H, liver enzymes. All perfect. Drew a b12 and VitD for shits and giggles. B12 was upper range of normal and VD was lower end of normal so I’ll be getting back on the 5000iu/day
that is good
for vitamin D...you got to start sunning your ball sack and your arse hole, got to spread those cheeks baby!!!
im joking btw...fricking twitter has been blowing up about that shite last couple days...gotten a few good laughs out of it
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:40 am to lsu777
Tanned buttholes… I don’t wanna know what algorithm your twitter feed is on
Posted on 1/7/25 at 12:01 pm to lsu777
quote:How long do those things last or are they permanent unless removed?
there is a chance you start developing polyps where the oil doesnt absorb very well and starts causing a red reaction and bump and possibly some bruising. Some people get them, some dont. For many it happens with injections that are more volume so keep volume very low and freq high
I get these now but didnt for years and used subq. I dont always get them either. Most dont.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 12:19 pm to Uncle JackD
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Tanned buttholes… I don’t wanna know what algorithm your twitter feed is on
bodybuilding and strength twitter...some famous coach I never heard of that is supposed to be some health guru type started it all. insane
Posted on 1/7/25 at 12:19 pm to TigerTatorTots
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How long do those things last or are they permanent unless removed?
go away in about a week to 10 days so not a huge deal
Posted on 1/7/25 at 12:23 pm to lsu777
Lord Jesus. I’ll just stick to the $7 bottle of vitamins. There I go taking the easy way out again. frick. Posted on 1/7/25 at 12:58 pm to Uncle JackD
I've definitely run across the "butthole sunning" wing of twitter back during the covid days. Ppl were convinced by its "benefits"
Posted on 1/7/25 at 1:44 pm to Uncle JackD
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Lord Jesus. I’ll just stick to the $7 bottle of vitamins. There I go taking the easy way out again. frick.
yea i dont think my wife nor my sons nor my mother in law would take to kindly to me being outside sunning my a-hole
ill stick to lifting, eating right and supplements and if I am missing out on some gainz by not sunning my ball sack....Im ok with that :lol:
Posted on 1/7/25 at 6:09 pm to lsu777
I just got my first prescription of testosterone cypionate. One 1ml of 200mg/ml vial. Prescription is for 0.5 ml every 3 wks, and one refill. One vial cost me $28. I’m ready to get started.
Some questions:
1. Why would there only be one refill between now and July?
2. How does anyone get prescribed for ongoing TRT past this initial period? Is it a matter of the doctor choosing to continue to prescribe?
3. I use a local pharmacy, not a “big box” one like CVS or Walgreens. Would they honor the goodrx coupons?
4. Does anyone order directly through goodrx, and how do you do that with a prescription?
Some questions:
1. Why would there only be one refill between now and July?
2. How does anyone get prescribed for ongoing TRT past this initial period? Is it a matter of the doctor choosing to continue to prescribe?
3. I use a local pharmacy, not a “big box” one like CVS or Walgreens. Would they honor the goodrx coupons?
4. Does anyone order directly through goodrx, and how do you do that with a prescription?
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:58 pm to meeple
Where did you get prescribed? That all sounds ridiculous to me. You don't take Test C once every 3 weeks, doesn't matter the dose. I would not follow that protocol at all. I think it sounds like you need to find a new provider.
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:51 pm to meeple
0.5mL once every 3 weeks? That’s a low amount. Almost negligible over a 3 week period. Must be setting a building baseline. IDK.
Most with your levels are started out at 200mg every 2 weeks to see where they fall. Then generally upped to 200mg total per week after a month or so. Follow your docs orders though, not me. Or find a new one.
I started with level at 450. Got pellets twice. Really enjoyed it months 2&3. Fall off sucked. Now I just gray market, inject 125mg every 5-7 days.
Most with your levels are started out at 200mg every 2 weeks to see where they fall. Then generally upped to 200mg total per week after a month or so. Follow your docs orders though, not me. Or find a new one.
I started with level at 450. Got pellets twice. Really enjoyed it months 2&3. Fall off sucked. Now I just gray market, inject 125mg every 5-7 days.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:56 am to meeple
quote:No. just no. That’s literally chemical castration.
Prescription is for 0.5 ml every 3 wks
You need to fire that provide from messing your hormones asap and let him stick to ordering Z packs.
A respectable starting dose will be anywhere from 120-200mg/wk split into 2 doses for 90% of people fyi. This cat has you injecting 100mg every 3 weeks. That’s just an abomination and frustrating how clueless some of these providers are when it comes to HRT.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 5:09 am
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:04 am to Uncle JackD
Am I supposed to ask the doc to prescribe more? I’m going to set up an appt to see what the exact plan is and go from there.
Also, what’s the “gray market” referring to?
Also, what’s the “gray market” referring to?
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:15 am to meeple
That’s your choice but your provider seems so far off track, it’ll likely be a waste of time.
You have a few options
1. TRT clinic who specializes in this stuff and can guide you properly.
2. Urologist who hopefully is willing to prescribe and properly manage TRT
3. Do LOTS of homework and enter the gray market realm. This is the cheapest option by far but you’re not there yet.
You have a few options
1. TRT clinic who specializes in this stuff and can guide you properly.
2. Urologist who hopefully is willing to prescribe and properly manage TRT
3. Do LOTS of homework and enter the gray market realm. This is the cheapest option by far but you’re not there yet.
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