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My 95# 12yo pulled 165# in the DL today. I’m pretty impressed since...
Posted on 8/13/20 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 8/13/20 at 4:30 pm
He’s only deadlifted 5 or 6 times in his entire life and he’s already at 1.74x his body weight.
Anyone else have strong kids putting up good numbers?
Anyone else have strong kids putting up good numbers?
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Posted on 8/13/20 at 10:22 pm to Robin Masters
My entire family Is 6'4" and over. Even the women.
I foolishly lifted heavy weights from the age of 11 because my dad fancied me as a world champion power lifter. The medals were nice but I'm 5'7".
I foolishly lifted heavy weights from the age of 11 because my dad fancied me as a world champion power lifter. The medals were nice but I'm 5'7".
This post was edited on 8/13/20 at 10:23 pm
Posted on 8/13/20 at 11:25 pm to Robin Masters
That’s awesome! I loved working out with my older brothers when I was a kid. Probably one of the main reasons I’m still into it today. Builds good life habits.
Barbell Medicine - resistance training in youth
Leaving this as a resource if you want or have any concerns about youth and lifting weights.
Barbell Medicine - resistance training in youth
Leaving this as a resource if you want or have any concerns about youth and lifting weights.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 6:00 am to Robin Masters
Make sure he maintains good form. He’ll be stronger than an ox by the time he’s 16. Oh, and feed that boy. MEAT.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 7:26 am to Tiger Ryno
quote:
My entire family Is 6'4" and over. Even the women.
I foolishly lifted heavy weights from the age of 11 because my dad fancied me as a world champion power lifter. The medals were nice but I'm 5'7".
Wait...are those heights accurate? Like even the women are 6’4?!?
Squat University has a really good article about how lifting weights with good form is healthy for kids. Also, I don’t believe there are any actual studies that suggest lifting stunts growth.
But like you, I was put on the barbells at age 13, and I literally grew an inch from that point on. Went from being the big guy on the 7th grade team to the short guy entering high school. But my family is full of short people, so I don’t believe it was the weights.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 8:02 am to StringedInstruments
I thinking developing good technique and training habits are healthy for 9-13 yrs old. Then once you hit high school age is when you want to starting training with specific purposes in mind.
Specialization too early and overuse can be detrimental to both the kids health and overall sport performance. We are seeing kids getting Tommy John surgery now because they’ve been pitching in travel ball year round.
I don’t know about the growth plate and stunting growth rumors that are out there. I know height has a lot to do with genetics and diet. I would think a moderate strength routine or just hard physical labor is good for kids. Better than sitting on their butts all day.
Specialization too early and overuse can be detrimental to both the kids health and overall sport performance. We are seeing kids getting Tommy John surgery now because they’ve been pitching in travel ball year round.
I don’t know about the growth plate and stunting growth rumors that are out there. I know height has a lot to do with genetics and diet. I would think a moderate strength routine or just hard physical labor is good for kids. Better than sitting on their butts all day.
This post was edited on 8/14/20 at 8:10 am
Posted on 8/14/20 at 10:05 am to Tiger Ryno
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I foolishly lifted heavy weights from the age of 11 because my dad fancied me as a world champion power lifter. The medals were nice but I'm 5'7".
He plays soccer and runs CC. I’m teaching him the basic lifts but it isn’t a regular thing. We started doing DL and he wanted to see how much he could do so we kept adding weight. He actually cleaned it very smoothly and quickly from the floor so I’m sure he’s got more in him.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 11:19 am to Robin Masters
Ok, lifting weights has nothing to do with height, zero. Been proven over and over in studies that lifting actually increases the density of the bones i.e. makes them grow.
Growth plates being damaged is almost impossible unless there is an accident of some kind. Anyone that tells you otherwise is ignorant to the facts. There is no debate, the science is clear.
And ryno, every male in my family is 6'4 or taller for last 4 generations. I was 5'10 going into 7th grade. Guess what...I am still 5'10 and I didn't start lifting until later. An antedote does not prove shite, the science is clear. The simple act of jumping and landing applies way more force one the body than lifting weights ever could.
As far as lifting, the science is clear on that also. Kids should not specialize and should start lifting as early as they can reasonably pay attention and perform the lifts safely. Usually this is 10-12.
Ideally we would have all kids follow the long term athletic development model of
Fundamentals-ages 3-8
Learn to train- ages 9-12
Train to train- ages 13-16
Specialization- 17+
In general fundamental would, in a perfect world, involve a robust gymnastics strength training(GST) program, along with a program like a kids ninja warrior class or some other type of obstacle course class. Kids would play 3+ sports. Ideally it would involve 3-4 days of training in some form on top of the sports.
In the learn to train phase they would begin to expand on the gst programming with weights and would consist of a very slow but deliberate progression over time, lifting/gst 2 times per week year around with the deliberate goal of getting stronger. Kids would play 2 sports and would have a dedicated off season from all sports to train for the rigors of the sports and prepare the body. This off season would begin to focus some on developing power in the specific planes of motion that the games are played in.
In the off season a focus on speed training, specifically form and frequency of steps would be worked on 2-3 times a week. Kids would stretch also after each workout.
In the train to train phase, it would be similar to the learn to train phase but now a true periodization and modelled progressive model would be applied. Everything else is the same except we start to focus on stride length in speed training as frequency is not trainable after puberty.
Specialization would be where you begin to focus on your chosen sport and you specifically train power in the planes of motion used in that sport.
OP, keep on keeping on, you are doing good.
Growth plates being damaged is almost impossible unless there is an accident of some kind. Anyone that tells you otherwise is ignorant to the facts. There is no debate, the science is clear.
And ryno, every male in my family is 6'4 or taller for last 4 generations. I was 5'10 going into 7th grade. Guess what...I am still 5'10 and I didn't start lifting until later. An antedote does not prove shite, the science is clear. The simple act of jumping and landing applies way more force one the body than lifting weights ever could.
As far as lifting, the science is clear on that also. Kids should not specialize and should start lifting as early as they can reasonably pay attention and perform the lifts safely. Usually this is 10-12.
Ideally we would have all kids follow the long term athletic development model of
Fundamentals-ages 3-8
Learn to train- ages 9-12
Train to train- ages 13-16
Specialization- 17+
In general fundamental would, in a perfect world, involve a robust gymnastics strength training(GST) program, along with a program like a kids ninja warrior class or some other type of obstacle course class. Kids would play 3+ sports. Ideally it would involve 3-4 days of training in some form on top of the sports.
In the learn to train phase they would begin to expand on the gst programming with weights and would consist of a very slow but deliberate progression over time, lifting/gst 2 times per week year around with the deliberate goal of getting stronger. Kids would play 2 sports and would have a dedicated off season from all sports to train for the rigors of the sports and prepare the body. This off season would begin to focus some on developing power in the specific planes of motion that the games are played in.
In the off season a focus on speed training, specifically form and frequency of steps would be worked on 2-3 times a week. Kids would stretch also after each workout.
In the train to train phase, it would be similar to the learn to train phase but now a true periodization and modelled progressive model would be applied. Everything else is the same except we start to focus on stride length in speed training as frequency is not trainable after puberty.
Specialization would be where you begin to focus on your chosen sport and you specifically train power in the planes of motion used in that sport.
OP, keep on keeping on, you are doing good.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 1:21 pm to lsu777
My theory is that kids who develop earlier are pushed into strength training to capitalize on their early developmental advantage. They grow slower after that because they were always going to go through their growth spurt(s) earlier than their peers, but people started seeing a pattern of weight lifting correlating with height slowing down after that and assumed there was causation.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 3:39 pm to Huey Lewis
The myth has been attributed to a couple different places but it's bullshite. Barbell medicine did a great 4 part series along with podcast blowing this out of the water.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 8/14/20 at 7:00 pm to StringedInstruments
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But like you, I was put on the barbells at age 13, and I literally grew an inch from that point on. Went from being the big guy on the 7th grade team to the short guy entering high school. But my family is full of short people, so I don’t believe it was the weights.
I’m the tallest person in my family at a whooping 5’11”. Cousins, uncles, and grandparents on both my mom and dads side. Lifting at an early age doesn’t stunt growth IMO but I do believe that it could wreak havoc on a kids joints and tendons if they are heavy lifting before fully going through puberty.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 10:03 pm to lsu777
Yeah but I'm 6'2 and fat my whole life with no exercise so boom science disrupted with anecdote
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