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re: Mounjaro, beneficial side effects

Posted on 4/12/23 at 1:57 pm to
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 1:57 pm to
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I think about 2 months or so. I refrigerate and keep in a box. Once the doses get higher you go through a vial pretty fast though.


this, must be refridgerated.
Posted by jose
Houma
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:05 pm to
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I refrigerate and keep in a box


Gotta keep it in the fridge.
Posted by Wasp
Off Highland rd.
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:27 pm to
Just checked out peptide sciences. Came across GHRP-2. Is this considered steroids etc? Never really heard of peptides. Been working out 4-5 days a week for 14 months doing ppsa plans.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31402 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:32 pm to
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GHRP2. Is this considered steroids etc?


i mean it would be considered a PED, its a growth hormone releasing peptide. you combine it with a ghrh like CJC-1295 or sermorelin and it increases the frequency and magnitude of your gh pulses in the body.

ghrp-2 & 6 are pretty crude though and make you hungry AF from the studies. Better off take ipamorlin 1 time at night before bed to increase overall igf levels. usually if doctor prescibed its gonna be either cjc1295 or sermorelin combined with ipam before bed.

but you only been lifting 14 months, just keep lifting and getting diet better and better.

what are you trying to achieve?
Posted by Wasp
Off Highland rd.
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:41 pm to
Thanks for the info. Reading about those now.

I’m not exactly sure of my specific goals other than looking better and getting stronger. DL ~300 SQ ~250 Bench ~230 started from scratch 12/21.

Edit: I’ll add that I’m 6’ and 180-185 and have stayed the same weight since I started but have lost fat (waist size, face etc)
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 2:46 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 2:55 pm to
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Thanks for the info. Reading about those now.

I’m not exactly sure of my specific goals other than looking better and getting stronger. DL ~300 SQ ~250 Bench ~230 started from scratch 12/21.


wouldnt worry too much about peptides then.

how old are you? had any blood work done to check hormone levels?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22201 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:03 pm to
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so PS is 3mg, I would start with no more than .5mg for 4 weeks, most women start at .25 for 4 weeks.

so to make dosage easy, add 6ml of water. That makes it .5mg/ml. you can then a 1ml insulin syringe to draw up 100 units which is 1ml which would be 0.5mg. inject subq in stomach fat.


wtf, that makes no sense still. PS is 5mg for mounjaro. 0.5mg of what? If you add 6ml of water, I'm assuming you mean it will create 10ml of solution making it 0.5mg/ml and each ml of solution will be 0.5mg of MJ. However, the dosage for MJ is 2.5mg for 4 weeks then +2.5mg every 4 weeks until sides are intolerable. The lab test on the page says Solubility: 5mg/ml H2O so that makes me think there is 50mg of powder in the vial and you are supposed to add in enough water to get it to 10ml or is it total of 5mg with 1ml of water for the entire vial?

quote:

Tirzepatide 5mg
Tirzepatide is a synthetic derivative of gastric inhibitory polypeptide (GIP) that has simultaneous glucagon-like peptide-1 (GLP-1) functionality as well. This combination allows Tirzepatide to lower blood glucose levels, increase insulin sensitivity, boost feelings of satiety, and accelerate weight loss. Tirzepatide was developed to fight type 2 diabetes, but has additionally been shown to protect the cardiovascular system and act as a potent weight loss agent.
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 3:22 pm
Posted by jose
Houma
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:03 pm to
I'm so glad to see you back posting again. I love reading your posts.

What do you do for a living? You are very knowledgeable about this stuff.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22201 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:06 pm to
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What do you do for a living?


He an engineer.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31402 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:23 pm to
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PS is 5mg for mounjaro


sorry i was looking at the 3mg semiglutide not the mounjaro.

if its mounjaro its a 2.5mg/weekly to start. so do 2ml water and take 1ml per week. so a bottle would last 2 weeks.

and no there is 5ng of powder. you will disolve in the water. 2ml water makes a 2.5mg/ml solution
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22201 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:29 pm to
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if its mounjaro its a 2.5mg/weekly to start. so do 2ml water and take 1ml per week. so a bottle would last 2 weeks.

and no there is 5ng of powder. you will disolve in the water. 2ml water makes a 2.5mg/ml solution



I'm assuming you mean 5mg of powder. So a 5mg dosage will be a bottle a week?! $640 a month? FFS, that ain't even that much better.
This post was edited on 4/12/23 at 3:30 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31402 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:30 pm to
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I'm so glad to see you back posting again. I love reading your posts.

What do you do for a living? You are very knowledgeable about this stuff.


engineer in the plants. the engineering background gave me a good understanding on how to read studies and have been at this for for 27 years now, atleast weight lifting.

got really interested in the supplement side when i was really younger and started doing lots of research, then about 7 years ago when we were having trouble getting pregnant i started researching the hormone side

i have a pretty good feel for the biochem side of things for some reason. all of it just comes natural to me and in hindsite prolly should have done medical to begin with. love my career and have no regrets though.

i dunno i just find most of the chem side easy but i did do 3.5 years and 100 credit hours in chemical engineering before organic 2 made me think i hated chemical engineering so i switched to civil. the minor in math prolly doesnt hurt either with the calcs
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31402 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:35 pm to
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I'm assuming you mean 5mg of powder. So a 5mg dosage will be a bottle a week?! $640 a month? FFS, that ain't even that much better.


yes there is 5mg powder. so first month you would need 2 bottles. 2nd month need 1 per week.

yea expensive AF. i beleive compounding pharmacy may be cheaper but for many mounjaro is a no go becuase need to have been declared to have a1c issues or diabetes and uncontrollable with metformin (jose can correct me if wrong on this, i havent looked at the requirements lately) so its a risk to have that in the file too. can hurt with future life insurance.

thats why many would rather go black market. also for a while there was artifically created shortages with pharmacy throwing fits about so many barely overweight women getting on it in some suburbs.

ill be honest, you dont need the shite. you just need to get your act together. sorry if that comes off as being a dick but seen you at your best, you 100% have the knowledge and ability to get back to that easy, unless you are talkign for family member, thats different.

you would personally prolly be better off starting EC stack and maybe metformin or the supps i mentioned earlier to control blood sugar than getting on mounjaro, assuming you handle stims well.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22201 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:43 pm to
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ill be honest, you dont need the shite. you just need to get your act together. sorry if that comes off as being a dick but seen you at your best, you 100% have the knowledge and ability to get back to that easy, unless you are talkign for family member, thats different.

you would personally prolly be better off starting EC stack and maybe metformin or the supps i mentioned earlier to control blood sugar than getting on mounjaro, assuming you handle stims well.




You ain't hurtin my feelings, baw. It ain't for me. My issue is I'm trying to do the "scientifically best" and I hate it so I'm lacking. I like PPSA so I'll stick with it but diets and shite, I can't do the calorie bank IIFYM type. I need to punish myself with the same shite everyday and do lower carb and high fats/protein
Posted by Uncle JackD
Member since Nov 2007
58652 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:51 pm to
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mounjaro is a no go becuase need to have been declared to have a1c issues or diabetes and uncontrollable with metformin (jose can correct me if wrong on this, i havent looked at the requirements lately)
You’d be surprised. As of April, multiple insurance companies have added MJ to their formulary and non T2D are getting it approved, someone’s without prior authorization. By end of 2023, I imagine it’ll be approved for weight loss.

I’ve been reading the MJ subreddit for a while and it’s full of info.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31402 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:57 pm to
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I can't do the calorie bank IIFYM type. I need to punish myself with the same shite everyday and do lower carb and high fats/protein


im same way. i have to be ultra strick to see progress....cause frick man i like to eat and can take down 1500 calories liek it aint nothing.


and keep it simple man. something i learned a long time ago from martin berkham was simple....create 2 meal plans. one for days you lift, one for the one you dont. days you lift, keep the fats lower and carbs higher, on days you dont, fats higher, carbs lower.

no science behind it but allows some variety. so lets say you are on 4 day ppsa, you simple

mon/tues- meal plan 1
wed- meal plan 2
thurs/fri- plan 1

sat/sun- meal plan 2 or fast all day and just eat dinner if going with family.

or you can create 3 meal plans. that away tues/fri are different and not eat same thing 2 days in a row.


like for me, right now im at about 1750-1800 cals

easist thing for me is protein shakes during the day, atleast for breakfast.

so i have the following:

1)fairlife core power 42g shake in the morning

2)lunch is 8oz chicken breast and 1/2 a packet of the little potatoe company microwave potatoes

3) 10oz salmon and 1/2 pack uncle ben microwave jasmine rice nad 1 cup sauteed(no oils) of trinity(onion/GP/celery). i cook rice and sautee with the trinity and put fish on top.

4) post workout- fairlife 25g shake or scoop of protien powder in fair life fat free milk.


my other meals are similar but i rotate out the salmon for 16oz shrimp, whole containter of the potatoes and whole bag of the rice. i drop the protein shakes except one after lifting.

other one is same as meal plan 2 but tuna in place of shrimp and then i add 4 eggs.

you could even do another where you rotate in red meat if you liked or do chicken thighs in place of the salmon.

i try and focus on staying below 1800 cals and hitting 200g protein. after that i dont give a shite how it works out, just something that is filling or fills a craving.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31402 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 3:58 pm to
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By end of 2023, I imagine it’ll be approved for weight loss.


yea should be it was fast tracked.

and yea message boards can be awesome but also full of doggshit. the old forums were much much much better for info for sure. i still go read intensemuscle a lot. tons of amazing info there.
Posted by jose
Houma
Member since Feb 2009
28620 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:07 pm to
Yea man, you are very knowledgeable!

quote:

organic 2


Man frick that class. Almost made me switch from biology
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53089 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 4:20 pm to
I think it’s kind of unfair that fat ladies get a shot and 4000 kinds of birth control but all men get is watch your diet and put this bag over your head
Posted by BigPerm30
Member since Aug 2011
25994 posts
Posted on 4/12/23 at 6:13 pm to
I don’t understand this shite. Why people would openly put a shot that fricks with your body instead of just having some fricking will power and work ethic is beyond me. I’m not talking about the people that are morbidly obese and are going to die without it. I’m talking about the soccer mom who’s pudgy and doesn’t want to put in the work. I can just see the commercials for the class action lawsuits in the next five years.
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