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re: Low Carb before extended cardio?
Posted on 8/25/19 at 2:22 pm to jsquardjj
Posted on 8/25/19 at 2:22 pm to jsquardjj
6 hrs hiking time and I spent 3 hours up top. So 9 hrs total.
Half Dome is the second best hike I have ever done. High line for me in glacier is still number one.
Half Dome is the second best hike I have ever done. High line for me in glacier is still number one.
This post was edited on 8/25/19 at 2:24 pm
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 2:42 pm to crazyLSUstudent
Wow...6 hours is incredibly fast. It took us 10 hours to hike (we started in Curry village) plus 1 hour at the top.
We did Iceberg Lake in Glacier and that is one of my favorites as well. Almost ran into a Grizzly on the trail and really good changes in scenery along the way. (Going to the Sun road was not open yet for Highline).
Do you have a favorite in Yellowstone or Tetons? Going for my first time in June.
We did Iceberg Lake in Glacier and that is one of my favorites as well. Almost ran into a Grizzly on the trail and really good changes in scenery along the way. (Going to the Sun road was not open yet for Highline).
Do you have a favorite in Yellowstone or Tetons? Going for my first time in June.
Posted on 8/25/19 at 3:47 pm to jsquardjj
Yeah, I was by myself so I didn't have to wait for anyone. Which allowed me to push it hard. Think I was averaging between 3.0-3.3 mph up and the same the way down. Pacing wise, I settled in at 90-95% of my threshold hr. (My hr monitor crapped out on me literally that morning. So I was unable to pace with that and just had to go by feel.) Coming down, I ws letting gravity take me and basically hopping from rock to rock. At the end I was sore but not from the effort it was the downhill portion. That was taxing on my knees. Also, it helped that I started early. When I got to the cables going up there was not one person in front of me. So I just ran up a lot of the cables. Stopping maybe every 3 or 4 rungs to catch my breath. Honestly that is the only part I really noticed the altitude. As far as Yellowstone, I really did not get to do any good hikes due to being with my family. The one I really wanted to do was Electric Peak. A good one to do with the family is elephant mountain (I think that's what it is called) nice view and not that long
This post was edited on 8/25/19 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 8/25/19 at 4:03 pm to jsquardjj
And teton was the same situation of being with the family. So we took it chill and just hiked along a lake.
Highline is a much easier hike. Mostly flat. If you do it, you must take the trail up to the continental divide. So beautiful.
Highline is a much easier hike. Mostly flat. If you do it, you must take the trail up to the continental divide. So beautiful.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 8:55 am to jsquardjj
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I am worried not having carbs is going to make this too difficult
It will
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Anyone have experience with long distance cardio on Keto?
Doesnt ever work that well, keto is not good for cardio.
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I have been doing Keto for a few months
I would stop if you plan to introduce extended cardio into your workout routine.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:01 am to 225Tyga
Keto and cardio go fine with each other.
It will take some experimentation and trial and error, but it can be done, even at a high level.
The new current WR holder in the 100 mile run eats keto. He held a 6:48/mile pace for 100 miles. Look up Zach Bitter.
So the idea that keto and cardio cannot coexist it absolutely false.
It will take some experimentation and trial and error, but it can be done, even at a high level.
The new current WR holder in the 100 mile run eats keto. He held a 6:48/mile pace for 100 miles. Look up Zach Bitter.
So the idea that keto and cardio cannot coexist it absolutely false.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:27 am to Salmon
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Keto and cardio go fine with each other.
It will take some experimentation and trial and error, but it can be done, even at a high level.
The new current WR holder in the 100 mile run eats keto. He held a 6:48/mile pace for 100 miles. Look up Zach Bitter.
So the idea that keto and cardio cannot coexist it absolutely false.
Keto and Cardio do not go well for the average person. Nice job pointing out a world record holder to try and prove you point.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:30 am to 225Tyga
Well you missed the point.
I provided an extreme example to show that not only can it work for your average Joe doing average Joe type cardio, but it can also work for extreme high level cardio.
I provided an extreme example to show that not only can it work for your average Joe doing average Joe type cardio, but it can also work for extreme high level cardio.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:32 am to Salmon
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Well you missed the point.
This just isnt going well for you is it...
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I provided an extreme example to show that not only can it work for your average Joe doing average Joe type cardio, but it can also work for extreme high level cardio.
No you cited a world record holder to show that keto and running can work well together. That is incredibly stupid on so many levels. God help this one...
Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:35 am to 225Tyga
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No you cited a world record holder to show that keto and running can work well together.
Yes. I used an extreme example. I’m fully aware of this and did it on purpose.
Can you explain why it doesn’t work for your average person?
Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:49 am to 225Tyga
You should check out the book “Natural Born Heroes.” It talks about the Cretan warriors and how they lived off a Keto diet and could sustain days of running/hiking/ or fasting.
Dean Carnassus even tried this same diet before he ran the Spartathalon and claims he had better performance. And for the record, I don’t eat Keto.
Dean Carnassus even tried this same diet before he ran the Spartathalon and claims he had better performance. And for the record, I don’t eat Keto.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:12 am to Shepherd88
Same 
Posted on 8/29/19 at 8:12 am to Salmon
I agree with that but that athlete was fat adapted and has optimized his body to burn fat during aerobic exercise. I was concerned for this guy because he does minimal cardio and was undertaking a 12+ hr aerobic event.
Posted on 8/29/19 at 8:25 am to crazyLSUstudent
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I agree with that but that athlete was fat adapted and has optimized his body to burn fat during aerobic exercise. I was concerned for this guy because he does minimal cardio and was undertaking a 12+ hr aerobic event.
Thank you. You are correct.
This post was edited on 8/29/19 at 8:26 am
Posted on 8/29/19 at 8:36 am to crazyLSUstudent
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I agree with that but that athlete was fat adapted and has optimized his body to burn fat during aerobic exercise.
absolutely
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I was concerned for this guy because he does minimal cardio and was undertaking a 12+ hr aerobic event.
right and I get that
my post was more in regards to the other guy that was insinuating that keto and cardio couldn't coexist
I prefaced my original comment with saying that it would require trial and error to see how well your body adapts
Posted on 8/29/19 at 8:49 am to Salmon
I agree that keto and cardio can coexist. I just think it is more suited to long low intensity exercise. Something like bike racing, or other higher intensity endurance events require carbohydrates to sustain performance over the given distance/time
This post was edited on 8/29/19 at 8:50 am
Posted on 8/29/19 at 8:52 am to crazyLSUstudent
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I agree that keto and cardio can coexist. I just think it is more suited to long low intensity exercise.
and not for beginners
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Something like bike racing, or other higher intensity endurance events require carbohydrates to sustain performance over the given distance/time
Correct. This guy gets it!
Posted on 8/29/19 at 9:02 am to crazyLSUstudent
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I agree that keto and cardio can coexist. I just think it is more suited to long low intensity exercise.
Sure. Like hiking.
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Something like bike racing, or other higher intensity endurance events require carbohydrates to sustain performance over the given distance/time
Well, unless you are very well fat adapted, which obviously most average ketobros are not.
I don't think we really disagree here.
Posted on 8/29/19 at 9:11 am to Salmon
Exactly hiking. But this guy is not that aerobically fit and a 12+ hr event is an extreme outlier for his current physiology to handle. And, the half dome hike is literally up hill for 8 miles at altitude therefore he would be operating at an elevated hr to complete the given task. Which would skew his carbohydrate/fat burning ratio to carbohydrate. So I was worried he would bonk at some point and turn a hard hike into a nightmare.
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