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Posted on 8/17/18 at 6:23 am to Big Scrub TX
This is going to be all over the news. Another questioner study, anti meat, pro carb.
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Posted on 8/17/18 at 8:11 am to Big Scrub TX
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Heart disease is caused by ingested carbohydrate. That's it. (see edit below) Prior, to, say, 1910, CVD essentially didn't show up in the entire medical history of humanity. It was invented by us when sugar consumption went from x to 150x in 150 years.
Not at carbs are the same and you know that
And humans have been consuming carbs to a long long time
Eating whole foods(grass fed beef, good fats,natural chicken and vegetables) , and whole grains isn’t bad for you
It’s all about the right balance and cutting out the processed crap.
This post was edited on 8/17/18 at 8:17 am
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:45 am to StraightCashHomey21
quote:I mostly disagree. Yes, some carbs do have the benefit of being delivered alongside some valuable micronutrients (vs, say, literal candy). However, that doesn't mean it's necessarily worth eating them. It's also the case that carbs crowd out micronutrients, essentially requiring them to be ingested in vastly greater quantity than if carbs were not present. In a no/low-carb environment, just trace amounts of some micronutrients are ample.
Not at carbs are the same and you know that
quote:Yes and no. I don't consider the ~10K years since the ag revolution to be a "long long time "in terms of the human body's evolution. In any event, "some" carbs would still be but a mere fraction of what modern day humans are being scolded to eat.
And humans have been consuming carbs to a long long time
quote:One of those doesn't belong. It is my belief (and I think amply supported) that consumption of ANY grains is not good for you. That doesn't mean there aren't some micronutrients. That doesn't mean you'll drop dead if you eat some. It just means that - purely from the standpoint of health (which I always define as "disease-free longevity) - they do not serve any long-term positive end.
Eating whole foods(grass fed beef, good fats,natural chicken and vegetables) , and whole grains isn’t bad for you
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It’s all about the right balance and cutting out the processed crap.
"Balanced diet" and "varied diet" are two tropes not supported by the evidence.
I obviously agree on the processed crap.
Posted on 8/17/18 at 11:58 am to Big Scrub TX
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Yes and no. I don't consider the ~10K years since the ag revolution to be a "long long time "in terms of the human body's evolution.
But you continually cite the last 100 years for heart disease. Selection and confirmation bias, no?
Posted on 8/17/18 at 12:06 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I mostly disagree. Yes, some carbs do have the benefit of being delivered alongside some valuable micronutrients (vs, say, literal candy). However, that doesn't mean it's necessarily worth eating them. It's also the case that carbs crowd out micronutrients, essentially requiring them to be ingested in vastly greater quantity than if carbs were not present. In a no/low-carb environment, just trace amounts of some micronutrients are ample
Getting your carbs from vegetables, bananas and other natural sources is not bad for you and contains those beneficial micronutrients.
quote:and cavemen were also pretty dumb, the broadening of the human diet has helped with human brain development to an extent with the physiological changes to the human body.
Yes and no. I don't consider the ~10K years since the ag revolution to be a "long long time "in terms of the human body's evolution. In any event, "some" carbs would still be but a mere fraction of what modern day humans are being scolded to eat.
quote:eating whole grains isn’t bad for you. Processed white grain is. Now the argument can be made that they are not needed in the human diet esp on large scales but whole grain isn’t bad for you.
One of those doesn't belong. It is my belief (and I think amply supported) that consumption of ANY grains is not good for you. That doesn't mean there aren't some micronutrients. That doesn't mean you'll drop dead if you eat some. It just means that - purely from the standpoint of health (which I always define as "disease-free longevity) - they do not serve any long-term positive end.
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Balanced diet" and "varied diet" are two tropes not supported by the evidence.
yea keep thinking that Balance doesn’t mean all your macros break down has to be equal
This post was edited on 8/17/18 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 8/17/18 at 1:55 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:What? I don't think you understand what you are saying.
But you continually cite the last 100 years for heart disease. Selection and confirmation bias, no?
Posted on 8/17/18 at 1:56 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:Bananas have way too much sugar and are a terrible way to get the micronutrients some of them have.
Getting your carbs from vegetables, bananas and other natural sources is not bad for you and contains those beneficial micronutrients.
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and cavemen were also pretty dumb, the broadening of the human diet has helped with human brain development to an extent with the physiological changes to the human body.
This does not make sense.
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eating whole grains isn’t bad for you. Processed white grain is. Now the argument can be made that they are not needed in the human diet esp on large scales but whole grain isn’t bad for you.
They are bad for you.
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yea keep thinking that
What evidence is there of a physiological requirement for a "balanced diet"?
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