re: Lipitor side effects

And for the record my Dr has waited several years before getting me on meds. We tried diet, niacin, fish oils and etc

My dad had quadruple bypass in his 50’s, my grand father had same thing in his 60’s

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My dad had quadruple bypass in his 50’s, my grand father had same thing in his 60’s

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That's a pretty strong family history. If they needed bypass surgery at that age, it is a virtual certainty they had at least moderate CAD in their 40s.

I'll be honest: If I was your doctor, with those cholesterol levels and that family history, I'd encourage frequent aerobic exercise with 2-3 days of resistance training a week, a vegan or nearly vegan diet and a moderate intensity statin. Niacin certainly won't hurt if you can tolerate it, though the mortality benefit is questionable at best thus far.

You're set up for early coronary disease without taking steps now to prevent it.

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But going out of pocket for a LDL profile at a private lab might be worthwhile to further stratify your risk if you can afford it.

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I had one done at LabCorp

It was 2895

Thank you.

My dad has diabetes as well. And so did my aunt.

My insulin resistance level was elevated but blood sugar was normal. All things considered that’s why he’s putting me on meds. 40mg Lipitor

Damn Roger, as a fellow doc, GI, that was some solid advice and excellent explanation.. board level stuff, good on ya, and I’m on Lipitor too

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Anyone >35-40 with diabetes should be on a statin regardless of cholesterol numbers

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Good god man, you're a fricking pill pusher. Thank god you're not my fricking doctor. There is absolutely no reason to say shite like this. No fricking pill will solve life's issues.

How about lifestyle/diet changes? those are just as effective to getting cholesterol numbers back in line AND it doesn't cost shite.

What strict diet did you try? Have you considered cutting grains and eating mostly fruits, vegetables, nuts, grass fed beef, organic poultry, pastures pork, and wild caught fatty fish? Look up Whole 30. Your triglyceride levels tell me that your processed and refined carbohydrates are high even if calories were restricted. Try eating only within an 8-12 hour window. When you do eat, make your plate primarily vegetables with a palm sized portion of meat on the side. If you decide to strength train, then you can increase protein intake. Try to get six to nine servings a day of veggies. Don’t worry about calorie counting. Eat only real whole food and shop around the perimeter of the grocery store. It may not be easy at first, but it becomes natural and in time, you will enjoy it more than junk food as it will make you feel great. Let me know if I can help or provide more information. Good luck.

First off, thanks for all the information in this thread, I enjoyed the back and forth between the two camps. But where are you sourcing the information from this post? Are you confident enough to say that grass fed organically raised beef is pro inflammatory? I assume you are sourcing these statements from various studies. Within those, did they feed the subjects saturated fats in combination with a high carbohydrate diet? Or were refined carbs and added sugar removed? I agree with you that conventionally raised beef is terrible, but that is not to say that all red meat is as well.

I would like to second the docs advice to start strength training. It is the best way to fully deplete glycogen stores and will decrease insulin resistance. If you decide to lift in circuit fashion or with super, tri, or giant sets it could give you a cardio component within strength training itself.

Docs certainly haven't always given the best dietary advice, but the subsidizing of unhealthy shite has more to do with the obesity epidemic than anything else. We have the most unhealthy, addictive foods the cheapest and easiest to obtain.