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Hypothetical: Clean vs. Dirty Cut
Posted on 8/20/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 8/20/20 at 2:10 pm
Let’s say an overweight person’s maintenance calories are 2500. What will happen if he ate 2000 calories of shite/junk food a day?
CICO says he will lose a pound a week, right? Let’s say this person is only getting 0.4 g of protein per pound of body weight. He’s losing all the muscle he has, right?
I’ve always wondered what the big differences are here.
CICO says he will lose a pound a week, right? Let’s say this person is only getting 0.4 g of protein per pound of body weight. He’s losing all the muscle he has, right?
I’ve always wondered what the big differences are here.
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Posted on 8/20/20 at 2:13 pm to NorceauxTigerFan
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CICO says he will lose a pound a week, right? Let’s say this person is only getting 0.4 g of protein per pound of body weight. He’s losing all the muscle he has, right?
He would lose weight, yet still look the same.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 3:57 pm to NorceauxTigerFan
They had a guy who did this only eating little debbies and lost a ton of weight
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This post was edited on 8/20/20 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 8/20/20 at 4:19 pm to NorceauxTigerFan
He'd wind up skinny fat & also metabolically he'd burn less calories than someone who maintained more muscle mass through a high protein diet & exercise.
Posted on 8/20/20 at 5:10 pm to NorceauxTigerFan
Junk Cut: Will he lose weight? Yes. Will it be a combination of fat and muscle? Yes. Will he be healthier? Yes.
Healthier Cut: Will he lose weight? Yes. Will it be a combination of fat and muscle? Yes, but more fat than muscle. Will he be healthier? Yes.
Look, anytime an overweight person can lose weight, it's going to be beneficial. There's less stress on the joints and organs. So let's throw out a hypothetical and say this person does the dirty cut, loses 10 lbs (50% fat, 50% muscle), and is 10% healthier. If that same person does the a clean cut, loses 10lbs but this time it was say 80% fat and 20% muscle, even though the same amount was lost...you could argue that the person is 15% healthier than they were before. (Yes - these are all extremely dumbed down numbers, but you get the idea)
The point is to find the healthiest/cleanest diet that a person can sustain. Some people that means eating salad. For someone like me who hates lettuce and greens, that means eating more tomatoes and bell peppers with my fajitas
Just find the best that a person can actually stick with and go from there.
Healthier Cut: Will he lose weight? Yes. Will it be a combination of fat and muscle? Yes, but more fat than muscle. Will he be healthier? Yes.
Look, anytime an overweight person can lose weight, it's going to be beneficial. There's less stress on the joints and organs. So let's throw out a hypothetical and say this person does the dirty cut, loses 10 lbs (50% fat, 50% muscle), and is 10% healthier. If that same person does the a clean cut, loses 10lbs but this time it was say 80% fat and 20% muscle, even though the same amount was lost...you could argue that the person is 15% healthier than they were before. (Yes - these are all extremely dumbed down numbers, but you get the idea)
The point is to find the healthiest/cleanest diet that a person can sustain. Some people that means eating salad. For someone like me who hates lettuce and greens, that means eating more tomatoes and bell peppers with my fajitas
Just find the best that a person can actually stick with and go from there.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 7:30 am to carrguitar
Diabetes.
Posted on 8/21/20 at 7:24 pm to NorceauxTigerFan
There are a lot of variables missing. If they are sedentary then .4 grams per pound is plenty. Add to that if they have a lot of body fat then the amount of lean muscle they have to support with protein is significantly lower than someone with the same mass but a lower percentage of fat so the amount of protein to body weight will be much lower. As they lose weight their BMR will be reduced.
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