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How much fish oil is needed to do any good?

Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:14 pm
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18946 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:14 pm
Does a healthy fish oil dosage necessitate impecunity for those of modest wages?

I don't see how even 5 pills per day provides any benefit. We're talking like 5 grams of fat from 5 pills...What's that? One bite of fish?

I've read where you'd need to take 20 pills per day for any real Omega 3 balancing to take place on a low carb diet.

140 pill/week cost roughly $30

Are you all paying $120 a month to balance out the Omegas??
This post was edited on 9/5/18 at 2:23 pm
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8382 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 2:28 pm to
Most on the shelves of any store are already rancid and are not of good quality.

I think the most important thing to key on is the O3:O6 ratio of the foods you eat. The SAD diet is an atrocious ratio of, say 1 O3 to 1000 O6. A better ratio brings this down to 1 O3 to 200 O6 (These are not correct numbers, they only show the ratio differences).
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31207 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 4:23 pm to
i try to to my best to do without the fish oils. But if i find my cholestrol has gotten out of whack along with my triglicerides, I will mega dose the fish oil.


like junky said, most are junk sold in stores.
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 5:41 pm to
I usually take some cod liver oil daily. I’m not sure it actually does anything, but why not? The one I take is 1,100 mg of DHA/EPA
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18946 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 6:15 pm to
The cholesterol topic where you posted this got me thinking about it:

quote:

For fish oil I recommend this and I would suggest start with 10 pills a day moving to 20 after 3 weeks.



So again, 4-5 bottles a month gets pricey! Is this only for desperate measures?
This post was edited on 9/5/18 at 6:17 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31207 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 8:37 pm to
Well if you can afford it it's a good thing to do. But yes it's usually for when you need to get the cholesterol in check quickly.
Posted by AA77
Member since Jan 2016
3796 posts
Posted on 9/5/18 at 11:57 pm to
Not all fish oil pills are the same.

What are the DHA/EPA in the pills?

And I agree with the above poster that most store bought/generic are garbage.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31507 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 5:12 am to
Spend that money on salmon and sardines and watch your omega 6 like a hawk, until you've created good purchasing habits. Salad dressings are huge culprit. If you eat out a lot then that's a big challenge. I've grown wholly unimpressed with most restaurants as I've continually increased and improved my cooking.

I am still on the fence overall on fish/krill supplements. I don't really like risking eating more oxidized shite. There's some issue of oxidation before it even makes it to the warehouse, due to processing.

And, while I haven't picked apart the studies, there isn't much showing supplements do much good re cardiovascular disease. summary

I do keep a bottle of supposedly good dha/epa in the fridge, and am taking the remainder of my krill oil that is still in date, just because I bought them (yes dumb). I keep it all in the fridge. I take this stuff only after eating out when I know they use shitty oil.
This post was edited on 9/6/18 at 5:13 am
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18946 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 7:16 am to
quote:

Salad dressings are huge culprit.
well damn! What's the problem with them?

Where do you buy your salmon?
How do you eat Sardines?
This post was edited on 9/6/18 at 7:27 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31207 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:06 am to
quote:

ell damn! What's the problem with them?

usually made with canola oil or soybean oil. both terrible. same with hummus. Tons of omega 6 in those oils and honestly they are just terrible oils for you in general. cause lots of inflamation.

For salads stick to EVOO or Avacado oil with vinigar

quote:

Where do you buy your salmon?


Doesn't matter too much where you buy it, its about buying wild caught if possible seeing if its been flash frozen.


quote:

How do you eat Sardines?

make sure they aren't in oil first off. Some i saw at the store were packed in canola oil. Second, i just use a little salt and pepper or cajun seasoning and suck them down.




quote:

what is dha/epa


quote:

Omega-3 [(n-3)] long-chain PUFA, including EPA and DHA, are dietary fats with an array of health benefits (1). They are incorporated in many parts of the body including cell membranes (2) and play a role in antiinflammatory processes and in the viscosity of cell membranes (3, 4). EPA and DHA are essential for proper fetal development and healthy aging (5). DHA is a key component of all cell membranes and is found in abundance in the brain and retina (6). EPA and DHA are also the precursors of several metabolites that are potent lipid mediators, considered by many investigators to be beneficial in the prevention or treatment of several diseases (7).


Essentially they are the two main components that make up poly unsatrurted omega 3 fats.


and yes you should store your pills in the fridge. Biotest and paleoethics prolly have the best quality fish oils on the market, but they are expensive so i don't usually refer people to them.


an easy way to get around all of this is just take 2-3 shots of olive oil and avacoado oil everyday. Of if insurance covers it, talk to your doctor about prescribing omega 3 ethyl ester pills. Essentially supplement companies created a pharmacuetical grade fish oil in the ethyl ester version, big pharma wanted it, sued using the fda and now you need a script for it. But its very very high quality and much more potenet.
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
18946 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:14 am to
quote:

usually made with canola oil or soybean oil. both terrible.
Yep, just checked the stuff I brought to work today. Second ingredient is soybean oil...

quote:

Doesn't matter too much where you buy it, its about buying wild caught if possible seeing if its been flash frozen.

Is flash frozen good or bad?

quote:

an easy way to get around all of this is just take 2-3 shots of olive oil and avacoado oil everyday.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43299 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 8:18 am to
quote:

I usually take some cod liver oil daily.


I did this for a little while. Couldn't keep it up, I am not a big fan of fish to begin with and that shite was making me just about puke every morning.

I now take 2 of these every day
LINK
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31207 posts
Posted on 9/6/18 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Is flash frozen good or bad?

good
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
7689 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 10:37 am to
Rosita Cod Liver Oil is the highest quality stuff you can get.

Best way to get Omega-3, vitamin D & E.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31507 posts
Posted on 9/8/18 at 10:51 am to
quote:

an easy way to get around all of this is just take 2-3 shots of olive oil and avacoado oil everyday


Maybe I missed something. Are you talking about just for fat intake? If so then yes, I drench/cook/make all sorts of stuff w these oils. But they have no omega 3 (or PUFA generally) to speak of. Almost all MUFA.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31207 posts
Posted on 9/9/18 at 7:55 pm to
I was just talking healthy fat intake overall.
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